# Pro bono bullshit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 9, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132 "2010-09-09T02:43:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/21 "2010-09-09T03:29:17Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > > [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > > > Haha > > > > OPs gotta whore himself out to charity. > > No, the OP voluntarily and knowingly entered into legal contract with a firm that encourages him to nearly three days of work per year helping people who aren’t millionaires. > > And he’s been called on it. By the guy that cuts him a check. Boo fucking hoo, Well I know that, but I wanted to rub his nose in it, because I can be a jerk like that. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/22 "2010-09-09T03:32:14Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > > [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > > > No, the OP voluntarily and knowingly entered into legal contract with a firm that encourages him to nearly three days of work per year helping people who aren’t millionaires. > > > > And he’s been called on it. By the guy that cuts him a check. Boo fucking hoo, > > Well I know that, but I wanted to rub his nose in it, because I can be a jerk like that. Too bad you are both wrong. I do not “gotta” do pro bono work, and the guy who sent around an email does not “cut my check.” And I didn’t agree to do pro bono work when I signed up for my firm. So, you two please each call the other an idiot until you come to agreement. ---
**Author:** ![pkmcd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e274bd/32.png) [@pkmcd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkmcd)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/23 "2010-09-09T03:33:27Z")
Jesus, do a couple of divorces from your local legal aid. I don’t think you have any obligation other than moral to help make sure that the law applies fairly and evenly to even the weak. But, really is it worthy of real vitriol? IAAL, and can say that for me it has been worth the time. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/24 "2010-09-09T03:34:09Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > So one of the senior partners in my section sent around an email today reminding everyone of the firm’s goal of having every lawyer work 20 pro bono hours each year. Apparently our section wasn’t doing so hot compared to the rest of the firm. So get off your lazy ass and start producing, or if you can’t hack it, start your own firm. It’s not your place to stand in the way of your employer’s requirements. It is your place to meet those requirements, and meet them smartly. If you ever hope to get to the top, you had best pick up your socks. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/25 "2010-09-09T03:36:00Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > > > Actually, your national association along with your firm has decreed that you _do_ have an ethical obligation to work for free. > > Cite for the national association piece? And I guess you’re not a lawyer, right? Good god no. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/26 "2010-09-09T03:38:57Z")
Rand’s pussy little whine here is an example of why libertarians who bleat about how charity should be removed from the government and left to private individuals are full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/27 "2010-09-09T03:39:25Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > > So one of the senior partners in my section sent around an email today reminding everyone of the firm’s goal of having every lawyer work 20 pro bono hours each year. Apparently our section wasn’t doing so hot compared to the rest of the firm. > > So get off your lazy ass and start producing, or if you can’t hack it, start your own firm. It’s not your place to stand in the way of your employer’s requirements. It is your place to meet those requirements, and meet them smartly. If you ever hope to get to the top, you had best pick up your socks. **RR** ought to at least appreciate your putting the issue in terms of pleasing one’s betters, rather than working for the public good. In fact, putting it that way, he might just click his heels and jump. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/28 "2010-09-09T03:42:12Z")
Oh dear god, Rand Rover, you’re such an ass. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/29 "2010-09-09T03:42:57Z")
At the moment, he is stomping his little hoofies in anger while he sucks at his employer’s tit for clients. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/30 "2010-09-09T03:44:41Z")
For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t take legal advice from Rand Rover, even for free. I’d be concerned that he’d fuck something up. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/31 "2010-09-09T03:45:38Z")
Wouldn’t the Randian solution be to quit, withdraw from society and let society collapse without you? Wanna give that one a go or do what the senior partner is telling you to? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/32 "2010-09-09T03:50:35Z")
20 hours out of a year. Really? There are roughly 8760 hours in a year. You could do a single fucking drunken all-nighter in the law library and do that. Unless you actually work somewhere where you have to to what your boss tells you to do. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/33 "2010-09-09T03:53:48Z")
Could someone who speaks Latin better than I remind **Rand Rover** what _Pro bono_ means? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/34 "2010-09-09T03:56:36Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Wrong-o, bub. I would be rewarded with (i) inviting some n’er-do-well miscreant into my life in a way that places me in a position to help him with his in all likelihood largely self-created problems and (ii) less time with that certain most beautiful and intelligent two-year-old you’ve heard so much about. No thanks. Given your prolific posting history in the past two years, forgive me for wondering if all this excuse about needing time with a two year old is just a load of crap. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/35 "2010-09-09T04:01:48Z")
Given your prolific posting of _bullshit_ here, I will say: have fun with that ugly, retarded 2 year-old. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/36 "2010-09-09T04:03:00Z")
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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/37 "2010-09-09T04:06:11Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > … Really, that was too much. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/38 "2010-09-09T04:14:15Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > > > I’m much less concerned with the bullshit at your law firm than I am about the fact that no one sees anything wrong about a borderline-sociopathic ideologue like yourself having any part in the raising of a two-year-old. Can we expect an impassioned diatribe against the child labor laws a few years down the pike? > > Can you lay out the specific facts that lead you to believe I am a “borderline-sociopathic ideologue”? Thanking you in advance. I’ll help. [Here you go.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=5677575) ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/39 "2010-09-09T04:14:41Z")
If I believed he actually had a kid, I’d agree with you. ETA: To **Darth Nader**. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/40 "2010-09-09T04:14:50Z")
> [@Darth Nader](#): > > Really, that was too much. Seconded. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132.md?page=3)