# Pro bono bullshit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 9, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132 "2010-09-09T02:43:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1861 "2010-10-21T18:17:36Z")
No, more like fuck those people who want to guilt-trip others into doing what the guilt-trippers think is right. There’s no absolute right and wrong, you know, just people’s opinions. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1862 "2010-10-21T18:18:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > 2 is more believable, but again, you haven’t presented any evidence this is the case, and I’m guessing it would not be the response I’d get from the Bar Association if I asked. No, but **Muffin** has, quite thoroughly. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1863 "2010-10-21T19:19:09Z")
God damn, **Randy** , you really are fucking retarded. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1864 "2010-10-21T19:40:28Z")
And in further news, sun to rise in East tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1865 "2010-10-21T20:00:20Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > There’s no absolute right and wrong, you know, just people’s opinions. Quite a statement there from someone who purports to be a _lawyer_. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1866 "2010-10-21T20:12:25Z")
> [@villa](#): > > And in further news, sun to rise in East tomorrow. Cue 1,000 posts of \*\*Rand \*\*telling us that the sun has no \*real obligation \*to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1867 "2010-10-21T20:36:38Z")
EL–why’s that? ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1868 "2010-10-22T14:35:48Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > No, more like fuck those people who want to guilt-trip others into doing what the guilt-trippers think is right. There’s no absolute right and wrong, you know, just people’s opinions. Rand, has it struck you yet that _none of your whining makes sense_ if there’s just people’s opinions? If there’s no wrong or right, then there’s nothing wrong or right with guilt-tripping people. If there is something wrong with guilt-tripping people, then there’s something wrong with taking an oath that says you are responsible for pro bono work and not doing it. Full stop. It strikes me that you haven’t really thought through your ethical positions. That, in and of itself, is pretty problematic. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1869 "2010-10-22T15:09:51Z")
No. He’s demonstrated his incapability, as a sociopath, of comprehending abstract requirements of conduct. It’s only “If I’m not going to be punished, it isn’t even real”, ad nauseam. But now he’s telling us that even _the law_ isn’t real, absolute right and wrong even with tangible consequences he can understand; no, there are only people’s opinions. As for violating his oath as a member of the Bar (assuming he really is one), though, is it possible to conduct oneself unethically if one does not even understand what ethicality _is_? ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1870 "2010-10-22T15:43:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No. He’s demonstrated his incapability, as a sociopath, of comprehending abstract requirements of conduct. It’s only “If I’m not going to be punished, it isn’t even real”, ad nauseam. > > But now he’s telling us that even _the law_ isn’t real, absolute right and wrong even with tangible consequences he can understand; no, there are only people’s opinions. > > As for violating his oath as a member of the Bar (assuming he really is one), though, is it possible to conduct oneself unethically if one does not even understand what ethicality _is_? He isn’t a sociopath just emotionally retarded. If you continually have to justify your actions, explain your thinking and excuse your beliefs, while everyone tells you that you are morally corrupt, yet you are incapable of any response other than what he can muster, you are simply devoid of insight. Or even the capacity to reflect on information that is presented to you. It is troubling when children present like this, in the case of adults it is depressing. Imagine what it is like being _Rand Rover_ - he’s hardly a little ray of sunshine and no matter how much he protests, somewhere in his head he knows he’s a fuckwit. It may seem that I am criticizing him but in all honesty I feel sorry for him. What sort of person hangs around in an environment where they are held in general contempt? It sure isn’t those with good ego resources. Just ask yourself - what would lead me to hang around a bunch of people who think I am scum? Did you you come up with any life affirming answers? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1871 "2010-10-22T16:21:54Z")
> [@don\_t\_ask](#): > > What sort of person hangs around in an environment where they are held in general contempt? You just asked THE question when it comes to Rand Rover. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1872 "2010-10-22T16:27:02Z")
Why pay a dominatrix to piss on him when we’ll do it for free? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1873 "2010-10-22T16:27:28Z")
Unfortunately, it’s the question _he’s_ asking everyone \*else \*here. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1874 "2010-10-22T16:33:17Z")
I hang around here for the same reason people watch “people falling down” videos on youtube–it’s fun to watch dumbasses act like dumbasses. Not the most noble pasttime, I admit, but we all need our entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1875 "2010-10-22T16:50:02Z")
That’s weird. Edit: the wanting to be pissed on by the SDMB posters. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1876 "2010-10-22T17:01:34Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I hang around here for the same reason people watch “people falling down” videos on youtube–it’s fun to watch dumbasses act like dumbasses. Not the most noble pasttime, I admit, but we all need our entertainment. See, that is what I mean. You reply with some glib meaningless bullshit. I don’t know anyone who watches\* “people falling down” videos on youtube\*, whatever they may be, although they may be big in your social circle. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1877 "2010-10-22T17:16:15Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I hang around here for the same reason people watch “people falling down” videos on youtube–it’s fun to watch dumbasses act like dumbasses. Not the most noble pasttime, I admit, but we all need our entertainment. You don’t need to post to read the posts on the SDMB, therefore you must be posting to encourage dumb-asses to act like dumb-asses. That makes you a troll. So which is it? A masochist who likes getting pissed on by SDMB posters, or a troll who wants to encourage dumb-ass posting, or some combination of the two? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1878 "2010-10-22T17:24:44Z")
In a sense, this may be the Web’s longest text-based “person falling down” video. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1879 "2010-10-22T17:36:29Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > In a sense, this may be the Web’s longest text-based “person falling down” video. Seconded. I was thinking that. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1880 "2010-10-22T18:45:33Z")
> [@straight\_man](#): > > It strikes me that you haven’t really thought through your ethical positions. Of course not. The man’s brain must be such a mess of cognitive dissonance, it’s no wonder he spends all day posting to a forum where every single worthwhile person loathes him. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > In a sense, this may be the Web’s longest text-based “person falling down” video. Oh, I dunno, there may have been something with \*\*curlcoat \*\*that was longer. You can’t beat the pair of them for oblivious irony, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132.md?page=95)