# Pro bono bullshit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132 "2010-09-09T02:43:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 95

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1881 "2010-10-22T18:57:25Z")

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Not everyone else here loathes him. Some of us are just pointing and laughing.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1882 "2010-10-22T18:59:37Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Oh, I dunno, there may have been something with \*\*curlcoat \*\*that was longer. You can’t beat the pair of them for oblivious irony, though.

Morella might be. (Or jrodefeld, to speak ill of the banned).

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1883 "2010-10-22T19:04:46Z")

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Straight man–just because I say something is wrong doesn’t mean I believe it is wrong in some absolute sense. I’m just sharing my opinion. So, you fail at the classic SDMB hypocrisy accusation–please grasp at a different straw.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1884 "2010-10-22T19:37:09Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> I hang around here for the same reason people watch “people falling down” videos on youtube–it’s fun to watch dumbasses act like dumbasses. Not the most noble pasttime, I admit, but we all need our entertainment.

Ah, the very same reason I read and participate in your threads! Nice to see we agree on something. Of course, we may hold different opinions on who the dumbass is…

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1885 "2010-10-22T22:23:27Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Straight man–just because I say something is wrong doesn’t mean I believe it is wrong in some absolute sense. I’m just sharing my opinion. So, you fail at the classic SDMB hypocrisy accusation–please grasp at a different straw.

The issue isn’t hypocrisy, it’s incoherence. Why share your opinion, even as you argue that such opinions are worthless and meaningless?

ETA: For that matter, you keep accusing people of stupidity. What’s wrong with stupidity when “wrong” is a meaningless term?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1886 "2010-10-23T01:25:41Z")

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I love the logic of that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1887 "2010-10-24T22:31:43Z")

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Jesus fuck! 38 pages?! Must have been one hell of an impressive individual with insightful comments to spark such lengthy discussion.

Or RR…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1888 "2010-10-24T22:33:53Z")

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Hang on, he’s still reading that article …

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1889 "2010-10-24T23:20:05Z")

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Damn! For about a day, I thought I had slain the longest thread in SDMB history. How sad.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1890 "2010-10-25T00:07:20Z")

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> [@straight\_man](#):
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> Damn! For about a day, I thought I had slain the longest thread in SDMB history. How sad.

Pfft. The current World of Warcraft thread in the Game Room is over 4000 posts now, and it’s the _third_ such thread.

Now, for non-nerdy threads, this might be up there.

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1891 "2010-10-25T02:14:42Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Pfft. The current World of Warcraft thread in the Game Room is over 4000 posts now, and it’s the _third_ such thread.
> 
> Now, for non-nerdy threads, this might be up there.

Oh… haven’t read that one. Still, this is one of the longer ones.

Oh well.

ETA: I don’t think WoW threads should count. I mean, you people are trained to do things over and over again for hours and hours and days and days. It’s plainly an unfair advantage.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1892 "2010-10-25T02:28:16Z")

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> [@straight\_man](#):
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> Oh… haven’t read that one. Still, this is one of the longer ones.
> 
> Oh well.
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> ETA: I don’t think WoW threads should count. I mean, you people are trained to do things over and over again for hours and hours and days and days. It’s plainly an unfair advantage.

But so is RR – just a grinder.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1893 "2010-10-25T14:51:04Z")

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Bosstone, do you never tire of talkingout your ass? Why do you think you have any idea of what I do at work?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1894 "2010-10-25T14:59:25Z")

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Sorry, “Bosstone” above should be “Muffin.” Hard to keep track of all the idiots talking out their ass in this thread (bracing for inevitable “you mean yourself?” dumbass response).

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1895 "2010-10-25T15:10:25Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Bosstone, do you never tire of talkingout your ass? Why do you think you have any idea of what I do at work?

Go get coffee for real lawyers.  
Get files etc as directed by real lawyers.  
Post over 400 replies to thread about what a fuckwit I am in futile attempt to change opinion of thousands of other posters due to vast amount of free time - no one wants my help.

Close? Or do we get yet another self justifying post?

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**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1896 "2010-10-25T15:11:18Z")

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Address **SM** in post 1885 and we can all go home.

We know you can’t do that adequately, though.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1897 "2010-10-25T15:11:43Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Bosstone, do you never tire of talkingout your ass? Why do you think you have any idea of what I do at work?

Based on your posts, you spend your work time posting on the SDMB, complaining about your employer.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1898 "2010-10-25T23:58:15Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Based on your posts, you spend your work time posting on the SDMB, complaining about your employer.

Based on your posts, you spend your work time posting on the SDMB, complaining about another poster.

> [@elninost0rm](#):
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> Address **SM** in post 1885 and we can all go home.
> 
> We know you can’t do that adequately, though.

OK, fine.

> [@straight\_man](#):
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> The issue isn’t hypocrisy, it’s incoherence. Why share your opinion, even as you argue that such opinions are worthless and meaningless?
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> ETA: For that matter, you keep accusing people of stupidity. What’s wrong with stupidity when “wrong” is a meaningless term?

This is a self-evidently stupid straw-grasp from someone with nothing on point to say. Where have I ever said that all opinions are worthless and meaningless? One thing I have said is worthless and meaningless, which may be relevant here (not sure because you aren’t making a lot of sense), is discussing whether an action is moral or not (because “that’s immoral” just means “I don’t like when people do that,” so it’s just a person expressing their opinion, which means it’s worthless to argue about–everyone is entitled to their opinion).

Also, I never said “wrong is a meaningless term.” I just said there’s no such thing as abslolute right and wrong. Saying “that’s wrong” just means “I don’t like that.” I don’t like when people are stupid or express stupid ideas, so I may say “that’s stupid,” meaning “that’s wrong,” meaning “I don’t like that.”

So, you failed. You haven’t demonstrated any incoherence on my part. Just an inability to follow the conversation on your part.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1899 "2010-10-26T01:43:16Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Based on your posts, you spend your work time posting on the SDMB, complaining about another poster.

Nope. Unlike you, I am not a grinder. My time is my own.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-bono-bullshit/553132/1900 "2010-10-26T01:49:16Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Nope. Unlike you, I am not a grinder. My time is my own.

As I said upthread, you have no idea what I do at work. You are talking strictly out of your ass.

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