And of course, were the legal profession totally opposed to Pro Bono work, yet gave no tangible punishment for performing it, except the scorn of his peers, Rand Rover would now be boasting of why he insists on doing Pro Bono in despite of the ‘rules’ because he never promised to aspire not to do Pro Bono.
Or if he did, it was only perfunctory and non-binding, cos he didn’t mean it at the time.
You act like this is something new.
I think people just don’t like SFG dragging your daughter into this, not because anyone disagrees with what SFG is saying.
I’m sure your daughter is great. Why not try to make yourself the sort of father a girl can be proud of.
Well, you are paraphrasing away the relevant part of the source of the argument.
I understand that there is no penalty but I don’t think anyone imposes a penalty for failure to do pro bono. That doesn’t mean its not a professional responsibility.
I think luci meant you should apologize to Ran’s daughter. Her life is gonna be tough enough as it is. Imagine if Rand Rover was YOUR father, the fact that your dad might buy you a pony isn’t going to make your life any easier.
EP–actually, this thread says nothing about libertarianism, but it does illustrate your complete failure at life. Two people have made an agreement that they are happy with, but you don’t like the result, so ýou burst in on the scene and try to coerce them to achieve the result you want.
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Apparently one of the two people, the senior partner, is not so happy with how things are working out in your section, pro bono-wise. And from the initial post, it did not seem that you were too happy about being called on it either.
But do continue! Hilarity ensues!
Your analysis is basically, “they’re not punishing me for not fulfilling my responsibility to do pro bono so I don’t actually have a responsibility to do pro bono”
You might as well just say, they’re not making me do it and it pisses me off that my firm recognizes a professional responsibility that I have chosen to ignore and now in addition to putting in useless hours of facetime, people are going to form opinion of me based on whether or not I am fulfilling a responsibility for which there is no sanction.
Do you really still not understand what I’m saying? I’m only arguing with those who say I have an actual obligation to do pro bono. I’m not arguing with anyone who realizes I don’t have an actual obligation. So, if you just think that it’s a professional responsibility or a moral obligation, then that’s fine, we have no quarrel.
EP, the two people are me and the bar association. The senior partner is actually on your side here because he’s trying to use coercion to get his way.
Well, as you are so fond of saying to others:
Get a new job.
Ok! I think I get it now. You’re not an “actual” lawyer, right? No “actual” obligations… Did I get it right?
Also, sadly, here is where I GO ALL CRAZY AND DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO BREATHE WHEN THERE ARE HUNGRY CHILDREN AND PARENTS DYING WHILE YOU GET PAID BONUSES FOR BEING A DICK YOU FUCKING HORRIBLE SELFISH…
Sorry, folks. I should go get a refreshing adult beverage or three, I need to calm down.
So… knock ya self a pro, Slick!
And sadly, I imagine you also have made an agreement with your employer, whereby you do the tasks that are assigned to you.
Of course, you are free to tell the senior partner that you do not have an obligation to do any pro bono work, and will not be doing any.
The senior partner is then free to fire your ass.
Freedom all around!
That’s correct (but “firing” isn’t the right word technically, and pro bono hasn’t been “assigned” to me–the firm just has a goal of all lawyers doing pro bono). So I don’t see what your point is exactly.
Stop whining here like a baby, and go tell the partner you will not be doing pro bono because it is not an obligation with penalties attached.
Be a man of your convictions! Are you a powerful tax attorney or a drone? Get in there and tell him tomorrow!
Right, I’m sure any time there is any little thing wrong at your job you go stomping into the shift manager’s office and tell her that the last time you blew her husband in exchange for time off work was the absolutely last time (and you mean it this time).
The fact that you are reduced to this line of attack really shows that you’ve got absolutely nothing.
Just because you say so. Like most of the principles you live by.
No attack - I merely suggested you follow your convictions.
And glad to see you rise above the temptation to reply with vulgarities. Or not.