# Pro-Choice? Catholic? Don't Think So... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266 "2002-06-27T20:56:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/41 "2002-06-28T15:15:33Z")
Basically, you’re missing that it is the Catholic League saying who is and who isn’t Catholic and that said Catholic League is composed mainly of rabid, insane people. Neither the Pope nor the Bishops Conference has declared that pro-choice folks or lawyers processing divorces have ceased to be Catholic. In fact, I could declare myself an atheist and the Church would still consider me a Catholic, just a wayward one. That’s why pedophile preists can still call themselves Catholic. And pro-choice candidates. And whatever. Remember…the Catholic League is insane. Take whatever they say with a grain of salt and remember they have about as much influence in determing Church policy as **hh** does. As far as I know, Corpus Christi is the only American diocese that has disallowed pro-choice Catholic candidates from speaking at churches. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/42 "2002-06-28T16:37:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by happyheathen \* > The latitude within which “Cafeteria Catholics” have been allowed to operate seems to be coming under increasing restriction - when a Bishop forbids major political candidates to speak about ANYTHING in Church facilities, the entire ‘agree-to-disagree’ concept is nullified. What “agree-to-disagree” concept? The RCC believes abortion is evil. Good for them. I disagree. Good for me. The RCC has never agreed to disagree with me, and I’ve never agreed to disagree with them on the issue. As for your last clause, it’s absurd. David Duke was a major political candidate a few years back in the La. Governor’s election. Would you be bitching had the New Orleans bishop refused to let him speak in an RCC facility? > [@](#): > > The middle ground seems to be disappearing… never a good sign. Again, what middle ground? The RCC’s position on abortion has never had a middle ground. Sua ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/43 "2002-06-28T19:18:47Z")
I can understand the church requiring Catholics to be pro-life. I can’t understand them requiring _everyone_ to be pro-life. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/44 "2002-06-28T19:39:34Z")
I disagree with their stance on the abortion issue, but the RCC has the right to determine who can speak at their churches. Planned Parenthood would certainly be within their rights to say that pro-life cantidates can’s speak at PP functions. I am certainly within my rights to say that people who think _Yes_ sucked can’t speak at my house. ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/45 "2002-06-28T19:45:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElwoodCuse \* > \*\*I can understand the church requiring Catholics to be pro-life. I can’t understand them requiring _everyone_ to be pro-life. \*\* 😕 “Require” implies the ability to cause something to happen. RCC: Sua, I require you to be pro-life. Sua: Nope. RCC: Didn’t you hear me?! Become pro-life!! Sua: Sorry. RCC: [explitive deleted] The RCC can no more require everyone (heck, anyone) to be pro-life than I can require everyone to laugh at my jokes. (which should be a law damnit!) Sua ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/46 "2002-06-28T19:53:02Z")
Well, it’s because they see it as murder. It’s not a religion thing-it’s a moral/law thing. That’s like saying just because the Bible says murder is a sin, that you can’t see them wanting everyone to think murder is a sin/wrong. Now, I’m pro-choice, anti-abortion, but I can see why the Church feels this way. ---
**Author:** ![Newton\_meter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/57b2e6/32.png) [@Newton\_meter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Newton_meter)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/47 "2002-06-28T20:26:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > **HH, you DO realize that the Catholic League is to the majority of Catholics as PETA is to most vegetarians?** A more apt comparison would be to say that the Catholic League represents the views of Catholics in about the same way that the American League represents the views of Americans. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/48 "2002-06-28T22:35:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cervaise \* > 'Course, **hh** will screw it up when he realizes what happened and comes back to re-post his original “message.” What can I say? When I’m right I’m right. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2002, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/49 "2002-06-29T00:11:31Z")
**Newton** -what’s the American League? ---
**Author:** ![Essured](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Essured](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Essured)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2002, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/50 "2002-06-29T00:48:02Z")
[hijack] > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Now, I’m pro-choice, anti-abortion, \*\* **Guin,** just curious. Would you mind clarifying what you mean by the above… It got me all curious 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2002, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266/51 "2002-06-29T02:49:42Z")
I mean, I think abortion is wrong-and I do NOT think it should be used as birth control. That being said, I think everyone has to make that choice for herself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-catholic-dont-think-so/116266.md?page=2)