# Pro Choice Life of the Mother Vs Live of the baby **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 12, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-life-of-the-mother-vs-live-of-the-baby/560377 "2010-11-12T01:27:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-life-of-the-mother-vs-live-of-the-baby/560377/21 "2010-11-12T04:49:48Z")
IIRC, in a thread about a pregnant eight-year-old (raped by her step-father), he stated that she should gladly give up her life for her children. (She was pregnant with twins). There are no words for this guy. At least none I can use in THIS forum. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-life-of-the-mother-vs-live-of-the-baby/560377/22 "2010-11-12T13:45:54Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > It’s clear to me that he is going to argue that > > 1. it’s irrational to give a woman this choice as long as we’re discussing a “legally non-existent human life” > > 2. if you are of the opinion that the woman in this scenario has the right to choose you must therefor be of the opinion that any unborn “child” regardless of it’s stage of development must be a considered a human life. > > Let’s see just how close or far off I am when he comes back to explain. Good analysis, and I’m sure you’re right. I only offer one tiny suggestion: change “when he comes back” to “if he comes back.” ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-life-of-the-mother-vs-live-of-the-baby/560377/23 "2010-11-13T00:37:45Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > It wouldn’t surprise me coming from a guy who believes that a woman who’s been raped and becomes pregnant has a “soul tie” with the rapist. Ah yes, I remember that chilling bit as well. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-life-of-the-mother-vs-live-of-the-baby/560377/24 "2010-11-13T01:37:31Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Note: **kanicbird** does not represent the thinking of the more rational members of the pro life movement. You can leave off everything after “rational”, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-life-of-the-mother-vs-live-of-the-baby/560377/25 "2010-11-13T04:45:11Z")
> [@](#): > > **GIGObuster** : The woman is making her personal decision, and I will accept it, provided that there is no evidence of mental issues. Why the stipulation about mental issues? Women who had varying “mental issues” were sometimes allowed to abort a fetus **before** _Roe v Wade_. For example, a woman with a history of depression and suicide attempts could get permission to have an abortion in the early stages if a psychiatrist thought that being forced to carry the fetus to term would possibly cause the mother to take her own life. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choice-life-of-the-mother-vs-live-of-the-baby/560377.md?page=1)