# Pro-Choicers: Abortion For Child's Sexuality

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 21, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171 "2011-04-21T02:38:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/161 "2011-04-22T03:44:57Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Most Evangelicals and fundamentalists try to convince homosexuals that their behaviour is wrong and even if it is genetic they can control their thoughts and acts.

Often through brutality and terror tactics.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/162 "2011-04-22T08:10:12Z")

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Aborting a gay fetus doesn’t mean you’re homophobic, it means you want grandchildren. It would be an interesting empirical inquiry to compare the percentage of abortions of hypothetical gay vs. sterile fetuses, since any difference would be potential homophobia. But it’s a much better reason than hair color, especially in a society where couples only have 1-2 kids.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/163 "2011-04-22T09:08:42Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Aborting a gay fetus doesn’t mean you’re homophobic, it means you want grandchildren.

Gay people have children, too.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/164 "2011-04-22T10:05:47Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> If (hypotheically) it became possible to detect the “homosexual” gene before birth, would pro-choicers of this board tolerate fetuses being aborted _solely_ for that reason?

Without reading the rest of the thread,

Yes, parents should have the right to abort a hetero fetus because they want a gay child.

Not that I’d support them, but the choice is theirs, not mine.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/165 "2011-04-22T11:12:46Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Aborting a gay fetus doesn’t mean you’re homophobic, it means you want grandchildren. It would be an interesting empirical inquiry to compare the percentage of abortions of hypothetical gay vs. sterile fetuses, since any difference would be potential homophobia. But it’s a much better reason than hair color, especially in a society where couples only have 1-2 kids.

It actually isn’t a better reason. Selectively aborting a fetus just because you think it’s more or less likely to give you grandkids ~30 years later is not better or more sensible than choosing based on hair color. And that being said, gay people have kids all the time, both biologically and through adoption. If you have functioning equipment, you can have kids.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/166 "2011-04-22T15:17:18Z")

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Since when can’t gay people reproduce and/or adopt? Though most of the anti-abortion, pro-adoption people I talk to are totally against gay adoption.

On a personal note, my sister the lesbian has given me _eight_ nieces, but my two brothers and one sister have only given her two nephews and two nieces (none of them mine). Go figure.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/167 "2011-04-22T22:28:02Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Murder (and regardless of what you think, that’s what they think)=/= disowning.

Most people’s principals are a lot more flexible than you think. I have very little doubt that, in your scenario, the vast majority of strongly anti-gay people would at least struggle with the idea of getting an abortion, rather than having to raise a gay child, and a significant portion of them would go through with it.

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**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/168 "2011-04-22T22:58:31Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Of course they do; that’s why they beat and kill homosexuals when they can; that’s why they tried to keep anything being done about AIDS; that’s why American anti-homosexual crusaders helped push for those murderous anti-homosexual laws in Uganda, for that matter. They are monsters, murderous bigots. They’d kill all the homosexuals on Earth and literally dance on their graves praising Jesus, if they could. And they’d never feel an instant of remorse, guilt or compassion.

If I were your mother, I would have aborted you if I had known before hand. And God would have thanked me.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-choicers-abortion-for-childs-sexuality/579171/169 "2011-04-23T02:45:00Z")

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> [@G-SE](#):
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> If I were your mother, I would have aborted you if I had known before hand. And God would have thanked me.

Not even close to acceptable outside the Pit. This is a formal warning for insults - do not do this again.

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