# 'Pro god, pro life, pro guns'

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 8, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661 "2013-10-08T05:53:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/21 "2013-10-08T22:15:23Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Pro-Choice = Pro-Abortion. I’ve only heard this from the anti-abortion crew about a million times.

What other choice are the pro-choice crew invested in, then? The right to choose to eat boiled eggs with or without salt? :dubious:

ETA: Wait, what? The sheep-botherer’s a mod now? Apologies then. :smack:

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**Author:** ![want2befree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@want2befree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2befree)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/22 "2013-10-08T22:30:57Z")

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\*its

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**Author:** ![AnthonyElite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@AnthonyElite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnthonyElite)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/23 "2013-10-08T22:43:17Z")

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> [@bartleby](#):
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> Just a small hijack. Once cannot be Pro-Gun and Pro-Life. It’s like saying you are Pro-Life and Pro-Death Penalty, It just doesn’t work.
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> Carry on.

> [@bartleby](#):
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> No see, that’s the thing, “Taking ‘pro-life’ in its generally-understood sense” is bunk. Pro-Life is Pro-Life, Pro-Life is NOT Anti-Abortion. Anti-Abortion is an ASPECT of Pro-Life, but it is not, in and of itself, Pro-Life. This is what drives me CRAZY about those who have co-opted the term Pro-Life. Being Pro-Life means being against killing people. Period.

> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> MOD NOTE:
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> Mind the forum, guys – start a Great Debate if you want to debate pro-whatever, take it to the Pit if you want to go that route, but hijacking the topic isn’t an option here.

If you are going to mod, Hal Briston, then why don’t you mod the person that started all the trouble? You cannot let someone flame and then yell at anyone that disagrees. Or can you?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2013, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/24 "2013-10-08T23:02:33Z")

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One of the many buttons I have on my hat says “Doing my part to piss off the religious right”. I used to worry about where I wore it, that someone might take offense… But with time I realized that the people who would be offended by it aren’t generally the type to read random things they see. The most recent occasion where someone read it was at an event at a church, and the fellow agreed wholeheartedly with it.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/25 "2013-10-09T00:08:48Z")

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> [@AnthonyElite](#):
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> No, not period. Pro gun means wanting a gun for defense (or should). Defense does NOT contradict the stance of pro-life. I am not endorsing any of this simple minded slogan-brained shit, but don’t go thinking someone can’t be pro-life and pro-guns. You are simply wrong.

> [@AnthonyElite](#):
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> If you are going to mod, Hal Briston, then why don’t you mod the person that started all the trouble? You cannot let someone flame and then yell at anyone that disagrees. Or can you?

His note was to everyone, including the hijacker. If you are still that upset over it, feel free to use the Pit or GD for the topic of discussion.

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**Author:** ![mumma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@mumma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mumma)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/26 "2013-10-09T00:34:23Z")

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Not interested in a debate…I have my opinions and you can have yours.  
I was a bit taken aback by the t-shirt though. Where I live a lot of people have He\>i bumper stickers or t-shirts so I’m used to that. My dad even wears a WWJD t-shirt so I’m familiar with Christian conservatives…but the ‘pro god, pro life pro guns’ slogan was just so…in your face.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/27 "2013-10-09T00:42:34Z")

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> [@mumma](#):
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> Not interested in a debate…I have my opinions and you can have yours.  
> I was a bit taken aback by the t-shirt though. Where I live a lot of people have He\>i bumper stickers or t-shirts so I’m used to that. My dad even wears a WWJD t-shirt so I’m familiar with Christian conservatives…but the ‘pro god, pro life pro guns’ slogan was just so…in your face.

There was a t-shirt going around that said “No God? Know God!” Penn Jillette started to wear a t-shirt that simply said “No God.” People looked to see if it said anything on the back. Nope, simple message.

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**Author:** ![AnthonyElite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@AnthonyElite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnthonyElite)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/28 "2013-10-09T03:16:09Z")

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When I was growing up in Rhode Island a friend of my sisters, a pretty cute girl, very punky, used to wear a shirt that said in BIG BOLD LETTERS

**I’M A CUNT**

The attention she got for it was just the kind you would expect, and YES, of course, she was baffled why she knew so many sleazy guys.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/29 "2013-10-10T03:37:51Z")

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I think I’d like a bumper sticker that says, “It’s okay if you don’t believe in evolution; evolution believes in you.” 😃

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**Author:** ![MostlyUseless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MostlyUseless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyUseless)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/30 "2013-10-10T13:30:44Z")

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Like so many bumper sticker slogans, it holds up to no scrutiny.

One man’s rhetoric is another man’s declaration of independence.

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**Author:** ![Lowdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Lowdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lowdown)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/31 "2013-10-10T20:05:08Z")

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Saw a T-Shirt on a kid a few months ago. On the front it said:

“Confirmation 2013”

On the back it said:

“Cross it off my list.” Only instead of the word ‘Cross’ it was a picture of a crucifix.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/32 "2013-10-11T15:01:36Z")

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I have a T-shirt that proclaims, in the I\<3NY style:

F\<3  
CK

I get a lot of comments when I wear it.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/33 "2013-10-11T15:09:42Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Pro-Choice = Pro-Abortion. I’ve only heard this from the anti-abortion crew about a million times.

I don’t find this ridiculous at all.

ARE there many people who find abortion morally problematic or even repellent but find what they consider good reasons for keeping it legal? Sure.

But there are also plenty of people who’ll pretend publicly that they find abortion regrettable, but let down their guard when they THINK they’re among like-minded folks, and say what they really think.

Don’t kid yourself- there are LOTS of people who are pro-abortion.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/34 "2013-10-11T15:10:58Z")

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I have this t-shirt - I have worn it to a couple of protests by angry Christians:

[http://store.penny-arcade.com/products/pat070181](http://store.penny-arcade.com/products/pat070181)

“Jesus says, don’t be a dick”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/35 "2013-10-11T16:19:44Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I don’t find this ridiculous at all.
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> ARE there many people who find abortion morally problematic or even repellent but find what they consider good reasons for keeping it legal? Sure.
> 
> But there are also plenty of people who’ll pretend publicly that they find abortion regrettable, but let down their guard when they THINK they’re among like-minded folks, and say what they really think.
> 
> Don’t kid yourself- there are LOTS of people who are pro-abortion.

CITE? Do you know anyone who would vote for a law making abortion mandatory for certain pregnancies? Pro-choice means wanting to keep the choice of abortion legal.

I love the saying “It’s a good thing your mother was pro-life.” Like pro-choice people don’t ever choose to give birth.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/36 "2013-10-11T22:47:00Z")

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The sanctity of life isn’t

Can a true atheist be pro life?

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**Author:** ![want2befree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@want2befree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2befree)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/37 "2013-10-11T23:20:30Z")

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This is a T-shirt thread!!!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/38 "2013-10-12T05:54:08Z")

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> [@want2befree](#):
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> This is a T-shirt thread!!!

Well, it’s trying to be, but _some_ people are making it hard.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/39 "2013-10-12T17:23:17Z")

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Post #1 was the OP

Post #5 was the first on subject

Then I gave up looking for on subject posting

Maybe the OP should have used a different example???

It is the SDMB after all.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-god-pro-life-pro-guns/670661/40 "2013-10-12T17:30:27Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Well, it’s trying to be, but _some_ people are making it hard.

It’s taking longer than we thought!

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