# Pro-Life=Fundamentalist Moron **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 29, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399 "2010-07-29T01:23:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/101 "2010-07-29T19:26:42Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > … you can continue to kick **Curtis** around for expecting any sympathy from the SDMB on this topic. > > Nice jab. > > I agree it’s ugly but you know what, it just might help him to see that the people he holds in somewhat high regard don’t agree with his fundamentalist ways and actions. I’m sure he’s licking his wounds but he’s a bright enough kid that maybe he can learn something from this. So far his only response has been to ask **Der Trihs** if he posts on the Star Wars board, which doesn’t make me optimistic he’s going to think about any other points of view. Being young and having Asperger’s is not an excuse for every conceivable personal failing. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/102 "2010-07-29T19:55:47Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > So far his only response has been to ask **Der Trihs** if he posts on the Star Wars board, which doesn’t make me optimistic he’s going to think about any other points of view. Being young and having Asperger’s is not an excuse for every conceivable personal failing. I completely agree. I don’t expect him to post a smack-head smiley and say, “Noooow I get it!”. But hopefully a few years of this same kind of feedback might help turn him around. The point of my post was let’s not lock this thread just because he’s getting kicked to the curb because of his own actions. ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/103 "2010-07-29T20:05:22Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > The worst part about fundamentalists is not their views. It’s the need to evangelize. > > Stop trying to sell your shit. People will come get your shit if they want it. If you push it on other people, it’s just shit. Yeah Boss… tell that to the ignorant fuckwads in GA who tell me I can’t buy a six pack of Guinness on sunday because it offends their sensibilities. And to the people (co-optors) who say just buy your stuff on saturday could you not be more off the point? ``` They love.. no they NEED to tell you just what you're missing.. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/104 "2010-07-29T20:15:01Z")
> [@](#): > > The internet, however, isolates you from the consequences of the inevitable teenage stupidity. You can call someone and his wife a murderer when they are in the middle of a traumatic experience, because you know you are safely anonymous and immune from the response you’d get if you did it to someone in person. This. And given that the OP is homeschooled, he gets even less real life feedback about his attitudes, opinions, and how he expresses those attitudes and opinions. The OP was not labelled a fundamentalist moron because because of his pro-life views. He was given that label because of the way he chose to express those views. The guy on the other message board was doing a basic MPSIMS thread, and Curtis came along and dumped a turd in the thread, making it so much of a trainwreck that it had to be closed. And if we’d had essentially the same situation on the SDMB, I think that we’d have pretty much the same outcome, minus the custom title. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/105 "2010-07-29T20:27:18Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > 1: There is no way in hell that **Curtis LeMay** is a fourteen year old boy. The language he uses and the worldly knowledge displayed in this and other threads indicate a person of vastly advanced years. Something smells funny. :rolleyes: > > 2: Coming here for validation (?) and posting a link to the offending thread on the other board smells awfully strange to me too. Given the (general) lack of success of his other threads on this board, I wonder what purpose he felt that this one might serve? :rolleyes: > > 3: I have no doubt that our chains are being collectively yanked. 😉 > > Have a good day. Completely disagree. Having been around unusually intelligent teens for 6 years, I’ve found that they always seem to follow the same pattern: shockingly mature in some areas, shockingly immature in others. Curtis fits the pattern to a T. ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/106 "2010-07-29T20:34:21Z")
Heck, when I was 14, my only obsession was the Sega Genesis (and the Super NES). I can’t believe this **Curtis** kiddo spews out the lingo of an educated redneck without being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/107 "2010-07-29T21:39:51Z")
A thread over in Cafe Society led me (ultimately) [to this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4mFHqYr06k&feature=related) so I thought I’d share. [sup]Link to Bill Hicks video - YouTube[/sup] ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/108 "2010-07-29T22:00:03Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > > [@kambuckta](#): > > > > 1: There is no way in hell that **Curtis LeMay** is a fourteen year old boy. The language he uses and the worldly knowledge displayed in this and other threads indicate a person of vastly advanced years. Something smells funny. :rolleyes: > > > > 2: Coming here for validation (?) and posting a link to the offending thread on the other board smells awfully strange to me too. Given the (general) lack of success of his other threads on this board, I wonder what purpose he felt that this one might serve? :rolleyes: > > > > 3: I have no doubt that our chains are being collectively yanked. 😉 > > > > Have a good day. > > Completely disagree. Having been around unusually intelligent teens for 6 years, I’ve found that they always seem to follow the same pattern: shockingly mature in some areas, shockingly immature in others. Curtis fits the pattern to a T. He fits the Asperger’s thing too. Kids like that can absorb and regurgitate a remarkable amount of information, and they often have a complete tin ear in social situations. They’re oblivious to certain kinds of cues and body language and sometimes just don’t develop normal social graces. For example, someone might give them a birthday prsent they don’t like, but instead of saying something polite or tactful, they just say they don’t like it. It isn’t that they intend to be rude or hurtful, they’re just operating without some of the intuitive social machinery that other people have. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/109 "2010-07-29T22:03:29Z")
But they are absolutely capable of understanding when they have upset someone. It leads to neurosis in many Aspies because they frequently can’t understand _why_ they’ve upset someone unless that person spells it out in a rational manner. **Curtis** doesn’t seek to understand, nor does he even give any real indication that he’s aware he’s pissed people off. He drops a dump on the table then completely refuses to acknowledge it or anyone else’s reaction to it. That’s troll behavior, not Asperger’s behavior. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/110 "2010-07-29T22:06:13Z")
Oh, I absolutely believe that Curtis is 14. At no other age are people so utterly convinced of their own rightness. There are, in fact, several people around here I believe are 14. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/111 "2010-07-29T22:10:00Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > **This. And given that the OP is homeschooled, he gets even less real life feedback about his attitudes, opinions, and how he expresses those attitudes and opinions.** I am not homeschooled. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/112 "2010-07-29T22:53:09Z")
If you’re using the Bible as your source of morality, abortion is _[not](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2021&version=MSG)_ murder. > [@Exodus 21:22](#): > > When there’s a fight and in the fight a pregnant woman is hit so that she miscarries but is not otherwise hurt, the one responsible has to pay whatever the husband demands in compensation. But if there is further damage, then you must give life for life—eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise. Notice how the penalty for causing a pregnancy to terminate is a _fine_ and not the death penalty. The God of the Old Testament didn’t hesitate to impose death for a huge variety of offenses, including cursing one’s parents and working on the Sabbath, so it speaks volumes that the death penalty is not imposed here. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/113 "2010-07-29T22:58:43Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Oh, I absolutely believe that Curtis is 14. At no other age are people so utterly convinced of their own rightness. There are, in fact, several people around here I believe are 14. You’ve obviously never been to any kind of political gathering of any kind. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/114 "2010-07-29T23:02:30Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > I am not homeschooled. So just stupid, then? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/115 "2010-07-29T23:08:20Z")
I don’t think he’s stupid at all; it might be better if he was. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/116 "2010-07-29T23:17:09Z")
Hi Curtis, Since you’re back would you expound a bit on why you think short term abortion is murder? Have you personally read non-biased medical information on the subject or are these the views or your church and/or parents? Do you believe male masturbation is also murder, for example? I ask these things not to ridicule you but to understand how you formed your ideas/opinions on this issue. I find it strange that you can so easily call a couple of apparently good, caring people murderers and not defend your position on why you feel so (and by that I mean reference a source of some kind rather than saying, “I just think so”. Jain ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/117 "2010-07-30T01:29:41Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > > [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > > > I am not homeschooled. > > So just stupid, then? My guess is he is plenty smart but just doesn’t give a fuck about other people, as long as he gets to shit on someone. It’s part and parcel of that whole smug self righteous thing. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/118 "2010-07-30T01:36:41Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > > [@Bosstone](#): > > > > The worst part about fundamentalists is not their views. It’s the need to evangelize. > > > > Stop trying to sell your shit. People will come get your shit if they want it. If you push it on other people, it’s just shit. > > Yeah Boss… tell that to the ignorant fuckwads in GA who tell me I can’t buy a six pack of Guinness on sunday because it offends their sensibilities. And to the people (co-optors) who say just buy your stuff on saturday could you not be more off the point? > > ``` > They love.. no they NEED to tell you just what you're missing.. > > ``` I saw that horse shit when I lived in Texas. There were entire dry counties. Not mine, but still, what the fuck?!?!? People just can’t seem to mind their own fucking business. As for blue laws in general, fuck that. If your religion is down on “demon rum” it ain’t my problem. If you think I’ll be in church if I can’t buy booze, that’s none of your damn business and I still won’t be at your church. Sure I can buy my Guinness or my Glen Fidditch the day before, but I shouldn’t have to because it should not be anyone else’s business. Blue laws and dry counties my ass. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/119 "2010-07-30T02:28:32Z")
Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399/120 "2010-07-30T02:56:54Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > At least according to the infallible, inerrant people at StarDestroyer BBS who has labeled me a “fundamentalist moron” [on some other message board] for stating sincerely and honestly that I thought abortion was wicked and immoral equivalent to murder when someone stated that his wife was to have an abortion. The OP certainly didn’t say “Please don’t criticise me” and in fact he was polite and civil to me about the whole issue-it was the other members who raised a typhoon of excrement. If it was say a thread about a homosexual getting married or a man engaging in premartial sex I wouldn’t have commented but since this was the actual _murder_ of a fetus I felt compelled to say something. I am more pro-life than the average person on this board and as a relatively pro-life father. I can imagine contemplating abortion. Why were they getting an abortion? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-life-fundamentalist-moron/548399.md?page=7)