# Pro-lifers, pregnancy, medical costs **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 17, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597 "2011-09-17T04:33:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597/181 "2011-10-03T01:36:58Z")
What is with the overuse of exclamation points‽‽‽ ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597/182 "2011-10-03T11:05:21Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > What country do you live in? Here in the US many places it is illegal to buy alcohol on Sundays, some have restrictions for Sunday like you have to wait till noon. Also there are noise ordinances that apply only on Sunday morning. > > The point is all law is **ONLY** opinion I don’t believe there is any law by man that is fact. Perhaps where you live it is so but not here where I live. Those laws were drawn up by the residents and you would have to check with the ACLU they would give you an answer, maybe no one has challanged them! The only laws there are, are made by humans, so in that case you don’t believe in any law so your argument is moot! You can believe that God made laws, but in reality you are believing in the laws of man, Moses (who may not have even existed) if he did, you are taking the word of a human that some invisible man in the sky wrote the Commandments on a couple of slabs of stone. Strange how right after That god gave the commandments not to kill, Joshua took the people and went to kill a whole town just to take it over, guess they didn’t take the commandment very seriously,or if God told them to Kill all the people with his help, he was a terrible monster who didn’t care about a lot of his children! I know I wouldn’t allow my child to kill another,and I am not perfect so I can’t respect a being who would create a lot of children,pretend to love them all, and then,have a few chosen ones kill innocent ones, when he knew when he created them they would be as they were. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597/183 "2011-10-03T11:14:19Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Why do you draw the line at birth? The unborn certainly are considered by many, including the mothers who carry them, to be fully human and already part of society, and since these unborn children effect the life of the mother they are unquestionable part of society already, no different from you or I as our part of society is only to the degree we can effect it. > > Even hear of Dr Kovorckian (I’m sure I butchered the spelling). But it is a legitimate debate. The rights of the people at the end of their natural life. > > Also BTW the seamen from a prize horse is worth a considerable amount of money, how much more a in the womb fetus horse (probably a hell of a lot more then a end of it’s life horse). Therefore I contend even in the womb a fetus has more value to society then the elderly. > > It’s a matter of degree, does that disqualify their soul, just because they are dependent on another for a time. In many beliefs we are all fetal children of mother earth, totally completely dependent on another actual living being. > > You are free to ignore Karma and the scriptures ‘you reap what you sow’, but that does not prevent it’s effect. As we treat the unborn we will be treated, there simply is no way around this. No one is a part of a society until it is born, that is why we celebrate Birthdays. The rest is just your belief and of course I think you have the right to believe or think as you wish, but that doesn’t mean others need to follow your beliefs. Nor are your beliefs binding on any other than yourself. Your right to life belief is a sad one when you do not even respect the life of people my age, so I suppose a person who is handicapped would be less in your eyes as well. I am in my 80’s and am in better health than many people who are younger than me, but I feel they can contribute to society and if they are incapable then I would owe them help as best I can. In many cases they are an inspiration, and also help one see how lucky they are just to have all their facilities working properly! ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597/184 "2011-10-03T11:16:13Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Religion is allowed as a learning process, perhaps a needed evil for a time. The words of scripture are worse then meaningless in the hands of the unbeliever IMHO (as very evident from your post BTW). > > I am not about religion. > > I am not using them as facts, I am using them as truths. If something is not a fact it is not true and can’t be proven. and you come across to me as being very religious in your own made up religion. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597/185 "2011-10-03T11:17:38Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > What is with the overuse of exclamation points‽‽‽ Got you attention didn’t it? One way to stress a point. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597/186 "2011-10-03T11:24:13Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > What is with the overuse of exclamation points‽‽‽ There was a sale on them. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597/187 "2011-10-04T11:55:18Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > There was a sale on them. Thanks for you Humor DT. I got em for free, which I figured,heck, usem a lot! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-lifers-pregnancy-medical-costs/596597.md?page=9)