# Pro-Russians in Ukraine demand Jews register or be deported **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 17, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348 "2014-04-17T16:13:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/21 "2014-04-18T03:00:41Z")
Speaking of false flag operations, every time I give in and read news article comments i’m convinced they are trolls trying to bring people to the opposite side. I was on the fence before reading the comments, but the “this was actual antisemitism” posters have convinced me it was a false flag operation :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/22 "2014-04-18T03:12:19Z")
I suspect this story was true in the sense that some clowns did spread around these pamphlets but since while Jews face widespread anti-Semitism in both Russia and the Ukraine, Putin isn’t treating them like they’re Chechens, I don’t think that anytime soon we’re going to ethnic cleansing of the Jews of the Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/23 "2014-04-18T03:13:39Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Hey\*\* TokyoBayer\*\*, did you know that if you say orange slowly it sounds like gullible? Terrorizing and extorting Jews is funny now? I missed that definition of gullible. Perhaps you have a cite? We have the word of armed separatists who seized the headquarters of the regional government that “durrrr, we got nutin’ to do with it!” Maybe, maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/24 "2014-04-18T05:05:31Z")
Given the amount of finger-pointing by both sides accusing each other of being crypto-Nazis, and given how blatant the connection between Jewish registration and Naziism, at this point in time I’m willing to take the Moscow-funded balaclava-wearing thugs at their word on this issue. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/25 "2014-04-18T08:47:20Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Your implication that this is a phony story to gin up Western support for NATO intervention in Ukraine…? The leaflet really couldn’t be more badly timed or anymore evocative if it tried - and then it’s handed out randomly outside a single synagogue by we know not whom. And they’re paying money and whatnow, to who? And no one knows where it came from. Umm, yeah - we have indeed been here before many times. But not in the way the producers of this bullshit leaflet would like people to think. Ultimately it’s your US tax dollars at work, folks ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/26 "2014-04-18T10:18:49Z")
An analogous situation would be someone turning up outside a black church in Mississippi claiming to represent their local Democratic candidate and handing them leaflets telling them to set up kerosene-soaked crosses in their yards and to stock up on hanging-ropes. Maybe the local democrat really was responsible, but probably not. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/27 "2014-04-18T12:14:12Z")
Well, kind of. The context here is John Kerry pushing the extremely unwilling _Ukranian_ army eastwards. When that utterly failed stuff like this - which was intended to help validate that push east - became pointless and potentially embarrassing. Too late for this particular tomfoolery though. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/28 "2014-04-18T12:37:38Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > They’ll have to pay a registration fee as well, and failure to comply will result in confiscation of their property and assets. > > [Leaflet tells Jews to register in East Ukraine](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/04/17/jews-ordered-to-register-in-east-ukraine/7816951/) > > Wasn’t Putin and his pro-Russian co-conspirators claiming Kiev was anti-semitic? Pot, meet kettle I guess. > > Isn’t Russia also forcibly displacing native Crimean Tartars? I was reading a book about Ukraine during WWII, can’t remember which one, and it said that the Russians under Stalin made a big deal about how everyone else was anti-semitic but their communist utopia was the one place where Jews could live freely and equally like everyone else. But of course it was Jews who were one of their main targets for extermination in Ukraine and elsewhere. I don’t know if these guys have some strange definition of anti-semitic that we’re not privy to, or if they have some kind of “what makes a real Jew” account, or what, but it’s strange. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/29 "2014-04-18T14:27:38Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > If true, it makes the lines even _less_ clear, because it looks like both sides may be tainted by anti-semitism now. Saying Eastern Europe is tainted by antisemitism is like saying Australia is tainted by marsupials. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/30 "2014-04-19T00:10:29Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > I feel as though we’ve been down this road before. ☹ > [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > To be fair, when I heard that Russia might need to invade to protect cultural Russians inside Crimea I had that same feeling. At least this time around Jews have some place to flee to. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/31 "2014-04-19T09:05:51Z")
> [@](#): > > City’s chief rabbi states pamphlet is fake, claiming it is meant to discredit pro-Russian protesters or Jewish community > [@](#): > > “I think it’s someone trying to use the Jewish community in Donetsk as an instrument in this conflict. That’s why we’re upset,” **the chief rabbi, Pinchas Vishedski, told journalists on Frida** y. > > According to Jewish community members at Donetsk’s only synagogue, which was founded 110 years ago, three masked men walked up to worshippers standing on the street after a Passover service on Wednesday and tried to distribute the flyers. They wore no insignia and quickly left when asked to identify themselves. But seemingly, the US Secretaryof State believed every word, not too reassuring for the public who rely on him for policy decisions and ultra-sound judgement: > [@](#): > > US secretary of state John Kerry soon waded into the media storm over the piece of paper, describing it as “grotesque” and “beyond unacceptable”. You could almost think it was a bog standard US fit up … > **[Antisemitic flyer 'by Donetsk People's Republic' in Ukraine a hoax](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/18/antisemitic-donetsk-peoples-republic-ukraine-hoax)** > > City's chief rabbi states pamphlet is fake, claiming it is meant to discredit pro-Russian protesters or Jewish community ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/32 "2014-04-19T17:54:44Z")
Are you fucking serious? ---
**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/33 "2014-04-19T18:01:09Z")
This may be a disinformation plan to smear pro-Russian supporters in Ukraine. After all, why would they risk a confrontation with a group with they would have to have at least civil public relations to avoid EU sanctions? Methinks that the CIA,the Mossad and MI-6 might have a hand in some of this… ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/34 "2014-04-19T18:06:59Z")
Its a poster some idiot stuck on a lightpole, not a statement by any person in authority. We have people in the US who say worse all the time. Unlike some Jews, I don’t hop to every time there’s a “Holocaust is imminent!” dogwhistle. Middle aged American Jews are so predictable. Think about who your panic serves. (hint: someone who wants America to sign on for an invasion). ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/35 "2014-04-19T18:09:11Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > CNN seems to be backpedaling a little from initial reports, Yes, there are fliers but [it’s not clear who produced them.](http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/17/world/ukraine-religious-threats/index.html?hpt=hp_t2) It is not that hard to believe that the pro-Russian contingent in Eastern Ukraine are anti-semitic. See, for example, [The New Antisemite: March 2014](http://antisemitism-europe.blogspot.com/2014_03_01_archive.html) In the video attached, a speaker at the pro-Russian rally claims that the events in Kiev are a “Zionist revolution”, and claims that Timoshenko, Tyagnibok (LOL) and Yatsenyuk are Jews. And the crowd loves it. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/36 "2014-04-19T18:12:51Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > An analogous situation would be someone turning up outside a black church in Mississippi claiming to represent their local Democratic candidate and handing them leaflets telling them to set up kerosene-soaked crosses in their yards and to stock up on hanging-ropes. Maybe the local democrat really was responsible, but probably not. Yeah, because anti-Semitism is completely out of character coming from Russian nationalists :dubious:. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/37 "2014-04-19T18:23:18Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Yeah, because anti-Semitism is completely out of character coming from Russian nationalists :dubious:. And racism is hardly out of character for white southern baptists. What’s your point? The point is not whether there is any antisemitism in the Ukraine (yes; btw we have antisemitism in the US as well) but whether there is any proof it is becoming an official policy of the Ukrainian government (none whatsoever). ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/38 "2014-04-19T18:26:00Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > The point is not whether there is any antisemitism in the Ukraine (yes; btw we have antisemitism in the US as well) but whether there is any proof it is **becoming an official policy of the Ukrainian government** (none whatsoever). I think you completely misunderstood the OP incident. Read it again. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/39 "2014-04-19T18:29:39Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > And racism is hardly out of character for white southern baptists. What’s your point? > > The point is not whether there is any antisemitism in the Ukraine (yes; btw we have antisemitism in the US as well) but whether there is any proof it is becoming an official policy of the Ukrainian government (none whatsoever). Anti-semitism has a much, much longer history in Russia and Ukraine and it was a hell of a lot worse over there. What’s the more likely scenario? Remember, horses not zebras. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348/40 "2014-04-19T18:45:03Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Anti-semitism has a much, much longer history in Russia and Ukraine and it was a hell of a lot worse over there. What’s the more likely scenario? Remember, horses not zebras. The most likely scenario is that Russia drums up enough American support for their planned invasion that they go ahead and do it with the blessing of the all-important “easily influenced Boomer Jews of America” vote. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-russians-in-ukraine-demand-jews-register-or-be-deported/686348.md?page=3)