# Pro Teams should use busses (Tyreek Hill) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 10, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038 "2024-09-10T00:48:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/1 "2024-09-10T00:48:15Z")
Driving while black is too sensitive for the Game Room. I assumed Pro Teams used buses to go from the hotel to the game venue. A team bus ensures everyone gets to the stadium on time. Allegedly, Tyreek Hill was driving without a license and speeding. That’s a ticket. What the cops did is inexcusable IMHO. Thankfully he wasn’t injured, but understandably upset. > **[Miami-Dade police officer placed on administrative duty after Dolphins star...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/08/sport/tyreek-hill-detained-miami-dolphins-nfl-spt-intl/index.html)** > > The Miami-Dade Police Department placed an officer on administrative leave Sunday after Miami Dolphins star Tyreek Hill was detained prior to the start of the season-opening game. > **[Tyreek Hill told teammates 'don't leave me' after being handcuffed and...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2024/09/09/tyreek-hill-calais-campbell-first-take-interview/75145425007/)** > > Dolphins star receiver Tyreek Hill told teammates not to leave him after he was detained by police before Miami's season opener Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/2 "2024-09-10T00:57:24Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I assumed Pro Teams used buses to go from the hotel to the game venue. A team bus ensures everyone gets to the stadium on time. Would he be at a hotel if he only lives 20 minutes from the stadium? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/3 "2024-09-10T00:58:54Z")
This may be the exception because the coaches and players are local residents. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/4 "2024-09-10T00:59:24Z")
Where did you read that he didn’t have a license? Your cites don’t mention that. And if home team players took a bus from the hotel, then they’d have to take a bus back to the hotel to get their cars, instead of just driving home. ETA: Most nfl teams do require to their players to stay at a hotel the night before a home game. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/5 "2024-09-10T01:03:15Z")
There were two citations. I thought one was driving without a license. The story is evolving as more information comes out. Very minor infractions. I think the appropriate action is to write a ticket and let the driver go. [A similar incident happened with golfer Scottie Scheffler.](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/17/sport/scottie-scheffler-detained/index.html) > **[Tyreek Hill gets two citations from police after pregame detainment; WR...](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tyreek-hill-gets-two-citations-from-police-after-pregame-detainment-wr-considering-litigation-per-agent/)** > > The pass catcher added that he 'wasn't disrespectful' ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/6 "2024-09-10T01:26:55Z")
He’s a star. He should get a chauffeur. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/7 "2024-09-10T01:48:28Z")
> **[Footage shows Hill pulled from car to pavement](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41199485/camera-footage-shows-police-pulled-tyreek-hill-car)** > > Newly released body camera footage of the detainment of Miami Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill shows that Miami Dade police officers pull the star player out of his car and force him to the pavement before placing him in handcuffs Sunday in Miami... Early reports said Tyreek was doing 100 mph in a 35. Haven’t seen any confirmation on that. This video shows Tyreek being a bit of a dick once pulled over. The cops then seem to reacted and escalated beyond all reason. So I think the suggestion that this is solely about DWB is a bit of inflammatory nonsense if the speeding story is accurate. Also the suggestion that players use busses or chauffeurs for home games is absurd. This isn’t a case of a rich asshole driving drunk at 3 AM. Dude’s just going to work. None of that seems to excuse the completely belligerent actions of the cop(s) here who once again prove themselves to be some of the most beta crybabies on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/8 "2024-09-10T02:05:58Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > ETA: Most nfl teams do require to their players to stay at a hotel the night before a home game. I know some teams require it, but is it really _most_? It was required during COVID protocols but those requirements have been dropped. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/9 "2024-09-10T02:17:21Z")
This wasn’t necessary at all. Routine traffic stops shouldn’t require three officers. Speeding is a problem everywhere. People pass me like I’m a little old lady driving to church. I’m driving the speed limit and won’t risk losing my insurance by speeding. > [@](#): > > I’m just being a Black man, that’s it," Hill called out. “I’m just being Black in America.” > > “We’re dark, too, brother,” one officer replied. “We’re people of color, too. Don’t play like that’s special.” > > Hill was released after roughly 25 minutes, when Brooks and Hill’s agent, Drew Rosenhaus, arrived. The audio cuts out multiple times, but in one angle, Hill is heard telling officers he would “see y’all in court” before re-entering his vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/10 "2024-09-10T02:50:13Z")
There was inaccurate reporting. It’s not unusual in these chaotic cases. Link [https://www.salon.com/2024/09/09/heartbreaking-upsetting-and-uncalled-for-tyreek-hill-detained-by-police-before-dolphins-game/](https://www.salon.com/2024/09/09/heartbreaking-upsetting-and-uncalled-for-tyreek-hill-detained-by-police-before-dolphins-game/) Drew Rosenhaus is Hill’s agent. > [@](#): > > Rosenhaus also told NBC that Hill had been pulled over for reckless driving and driving without a license. “I don’t want to speak for him but it certainly felt like he wasn’t treated fairly,” Rosenhaus said to NBC South Florida. “Things escalated out of control.” ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/11 "2024-09-10T03:12:42Z")
Tyreek sounds like scum: > He was accused of punching his girlfriend in college and got kicked off the team at Oklahoma State, later pleading guilty to domestic assault and battery by **strangulation**. In 2019, prosecutors in suburban Kansas City declined to charge Hill after an alleged domestic violence incident involving his fiancée and their 3-year-old child. > **[Video shows officers dragged Tyreek Hill out of his car after he put his...](https://apnews.com/article/dolphins-tyreek-hill-detained-a842542cfdf33179bdb5dac060fa2d4d)** > > Police body camera video shows an officer dragged Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill out of his sports car by his arm and head and then forced him face-first onto the ground after Hill put up the window of his car. ---
**Author:** ![brad\_d](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@brad\_d](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brad_d)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/12 "2024-09-10T03:19:54Z")
It’s been going on for decades. _No Medals for Trying_ details a week behind the scenes with the New York Giants in 1989, and they were doing it then. Players (and coaches) would drive themselves from the hotel to the stadium, usually arriving long before traffic started to jam up. The game depicted in the book was an afternoon kickoff; I don’t know what changes are made for night games. [This ESPN article](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38954011/cowboys-12-game-home-winning-streak-dak-prescott-commanders-thanksgiving) from 2023 highlights the Dallas Cowboys as unusual in not _requiring_ their players to sleep in the team hotel before home games (but the “team hotel” does exist, and some players choose to sleep there). ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/13 "2024-09-10T03:59:47Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Tyreek sounds like scum: He is, but ultimately that’s irrelevant here. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/14 "2024-09-10T13:20:24Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > This video shows Tyreek being a bit of a dick once pulled over. The cops then seem to reacted and escalated beyond all reason. Many police need to be little emperors and any challenge to their authority shatters their fragile egos. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/15 "2024-09-10T14:32:21Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Early reports said Tyreek was doing 100 mph in a 35. Haven’t seen any confirmation on that. If he was going that fast, this wasn’t a routine stop. Going that much over the speed limit is similar to drunk driving–it’s endangering everyone else. In southern California it’ll get your car impounded and several hours at the local station for processing. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/16 "2024-09-10T14:39:44Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Many police need to be little emperors and any challenge to their authority shatters their fragile egos. That’s certainly true, but I don’t know if that’s what I saw in the video linked above. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/17 "2024-09-10T14:40:52Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > > [@Omniscient](#): > > > > Early reports said Tyreek was doing 100 mph in a 35. Haven’t seen any confirmation on that. > > If he was going that fast, this wasn’t a routine stop. Going that much over the speed limit is similar to drunk driving–it’s endangering everyone else. In southern California it’ll get your car impounded and several hours at the local station for processing. Yeah, if he was truly doing 100 mph in a 35, then I would expect criminal charges, not just a traffic ticket. (Although at this point the city might try to just pretend all this never happened). ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/18 "2024-09-10T14:59:45Z")
Was he actually going 100mph? I can’t find any news articles that state that, just random people saying he was ‘probably’ going over 100mph. The only article I’ve been able to find that brings up how fast he was going is [this one](https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106872/tyreek-hill-police-bodycam-videos-miami-dolphins). > Hill was cited for careless driving and failure to wear a seatbelt. The original officer who first decided to pursue Hill later estimated that the football player had been driving at 60 miles per hour. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/19 "2024-09-10T15:02:13Z")
“later estimated”, eh? That inspires so much confidence in the idea that this wasn’t a DWB gone terribly wrong for the cop. /s ETA: Not that Tyreek Hill is a good person or anything. But that doesn’t excuse stupid and/or unprofessional behavior on the part of law enforcement, either. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038/20 "2024-09-10T15:10:45Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > That inspires so much confidence in the idea that this wasn’t a DWB gone terribly wrong for the cop. /s He also didn’t get a speeding ticket. I’d WAG that he _was_ speeding, and speeding enough to get the cop’s attention, the cop just wasn’t clocking people at the moment. And I’m not defending any thing the cop did, I’m just guessing that’s what happened. What would you expect to happen if you drove 30-70 mph over the speed limit? If they didn’t have time to clock your speed, do they just ignore it? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pro-teams-should-use-busses-tyreek-hill/1007038.md?page=2)