# Probably my last topic regarding my beef with social and political issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 17, 2018, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716 "2018-03-17T06:07:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/101 "2018-03-19T20:42:28Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Exactly! How is this so hard to understand? Because your thoughts are presented incoherently and without regard to established grammar rules. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/102 "2018-03-19T21:59:52Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Because your thoughts are presented incoherently and without regard to established grammar rules. When it comes to more complex topics, I will always be like this. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/103 "2018-03-19T23:15:21Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > When it comes to more complex topics, I will always be like this. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/104 "2018-03-19T23:25:14Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > When it comes to more complex topics, I will always be like this. :smack: So, there’s no reasonable expectation of having a coherent conversation with you about more complex topics? So, we might as well not bother responding to or reading your posts? CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/105 "2018-03-19T23:40:12Z")
I have lost brain cells reading through this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/106 "2018-03-19T23:55:22Z")
I wanted to be able to say (I don’t know why) that I had tried. Really tried. Like climbing a mountain. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/107 "2018-03-20T00:22:05Z")
I am actually the one losing brain cells If you want me to learn then actually post me something to read I will await an intersectionality 101 page ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/108 "2018-03-20T00:24:31Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > :smack: > > So, there’s no reasonable expectation of having a coherent conversation with you about more complex topics? > > So, we might as well not bother responding to or reading your posts? > > CMC fnord! :smack: Didn’t I just say you don’t learn overnight? Yes, I tend to poorly research my topics. But I HATE it, when people try sound sound smart right away. If there’s any real male privileges out there, not including the reproductive benefits such as menopause, then I will read them and I acknowledge that even the most opressed of men can benefit. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/109 "2018-03-20T00:33:24Z")
Nm, changed my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/110 "2018-03-20T00:39:48Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Nm, changed my mind. Alright thanks, will be awaiting and in the meantime will have popcorn and soda 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/111 "2018-03-20T01:14:20Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > When it comes to more complex topics, I will always be like this. …yet you managed to write a post like this on the topic of gun control? > [@A big middle finger to the people who took advantage to politicize the school shooting](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-big-middle-finger-to-the-people-who-took-advantage-to-politicize-the-school-shooting/809107/215): > > Also here is more I got to say > America is a much larger country than any European nation ever. And we have a lot of wilderness, open space, and many different types of populations. This is why, for instance, it is almost impossible for anyone to buy a legal gun in NY City. Probably because proximity and population make guns more dangerous in an inner city such as the Big Apple. > America is a nation that is 40 times the size of Great Britain, and has not only a Federal Constitution, but 50 different state constitutions. People, government, laws, and logistics are different here. Americans have been heavily armed with all kinds of heavy duty, hardcore weapons for almost 250 years. It is only in the recent decades we have had serious, widespread problems like the one in Florida. So categorically assuming its the guns themselves that are the problem is myopic. > The fact remains that the fundamental cultural differences between America and the other western nations are (a) Americans have an irrational fear/distrust of their own government and (b) desire for, familiarity with, and protectiveness of, guns. These are obviously obstacles to changing gun laws. My contention is that they are the ONLY obstacles to changing gun laws, and that there is nothing sacred or immutable about them. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/112 "2018-03-20T01:19:24Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > Alright thanks, will be awaiting and in the meantime will have popcorn and soda 🆒 Knock yourself out, kiddo. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/113 "2018-03-20T01:24:21Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > {…} Yes, I tend to poorly research my topics. But I HATE it, when people try sound sound smart right away. {…} Physician, heal thyself. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/114 "2018-03-20T02:24:18Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …yet you managed to write a post like this on the topic of gun control? I gotta be honest, that’s just some 8th grade knowledge regarding the constitution right there and even then I had to google some info again to recheck. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/115 "2018-03-20T02:35:14Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I gotta be honest, that’s just some 8th grade knowledge regarding the constitution right there and even then I had to google some info again to recheck. Since this editor only has a time limit of 5 minutes… But I am not joking when I say that, you know that US History in 8th grade is for sure a very stimulating class(for me it was), we even discussed women’s suffrage which perhaps was the closest thing to the Civil Rights stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/116 "2018-03-20T02:42:17Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > I am actually the one losing brain cells > If you want me to learn then actually post me something to read > > I will await an intersectionality 101 page 107 posts in and no one has posted you anything to read on intersectionality? You are not reading this thread. There have been many. Think I’ll go see what **Inigo** ’s been posting. Very soothing. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/117 "2018-03-20T02:59:42Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > 107 posts in and no one has posted you anything to read on intersectionality? You are not reading this thread. There have been many. > > Think I’ll go see what **Inigo** ’s been posting. Very soothing. Except the problem is the posts all just to prove me incorrect or don’t have anything that accompanies their post But at least to show I know how the concept/dynamic developed over time, I will add to the topic The concept of intersectionality is intended to illuminate dynamics that have too often been overlooked in feminist movements and theory. As articulated by bell hooks, such an approach “challenged the notion that ‘gender’ was the primary factor determining a woman’s fate”. This exploration sprang from a historical exclusion of black women from the feminist movement that had been challenged since at least the 1800s by black feminists such as Anna Julia Cooper. In many ways, the introduction of intersectional theory supported claims made by women of color that they belong in both of these political spheres. Now keep in mind this was literally when both women’s suffrage and Civil Rights were happening, but the reason I think the concept fails in modern times because well times have changed… White and Asian women make up the most college graduates and having been doing so for what I heard the last 20 years? So according to the dynamic is that the sex is literally the determiner of fate, but this begs to challenge it. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/118 "2018-03-20T03:09:40Z")
You did not write that. ---
**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/119 "2018-03-20T03:15:49Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > You did not write that. Yes I did sir. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716/120 "2018-03-20T03:16:00Z")
> [@Luciano700](#): > > \*\*Except the problem is the posts all just to prove me incorrect \*\* \ When you pose a topic and ask for clarification, and then people give you clarification, how is that different that what you were expecting? If you can’t accept some correction, or clarification, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/probably-my-last-topic-regarding-my-beef-with-social-and-political-issues/810716.md?page=7)