We will tell you when you learn how.
Regards,
Shodan
We will tell you when you learn how.
Regards,
Shodan
From being there, in slightly above minimum wage jobs…
“You pay me shit, you treat me like shit, so I have zero loyalty to you”
Or, another aspect:
“You don’t come in on time, you don’t uphold the standards here, you take too long breaks, you no call/no show, why the hell would I pay you more?”
Maybe where you live is different, but most places around here that pay close to minimum wage cannot keep any employees because they are so unreliable. There is not a drawer full of applications of people waiting to find a job.
So, no, that is not ALWAYS the scenario. Your thoughts of people getting on their hands and knees thanking the cold business owner for allowing them to work for minimum wage aren’t exactly true everywhere.
I’ve got this feeling my scenario is much more likely than yours all over this country.
And if My Beloved had taken some of that passion and energy fighting cancer and applied all those medical costs to some financial investments, I could have paid for a modest funeral and still had enough leftover for a 401k!
I’m so fucking glad for you that life never had the type of bank-account destroying experiences that happen in real life.
So the wealthy are immortal? They don’t have illness or death in their families?
So the wealthy are immortal? They don’t have illness or death in their families?
They do tend to have the assets available to pay for better treatment and increase their survival rates…
I’m not poor. I work IT. However, I did declare bankruptcy 7 years ago in the middle of a dark period where I did work shit paying jobs.
I have a serious issue with the right wing “fuck the poor, let them die on the streets” attitude that seems to blame them for every ill that befalls them and brushes off any idea that anyone else can or should do anything about it, usually with the much repeated “they don’t deserve it” that we see in this thread.
I would hope to god that none of you people saying this sort of thing also call yourselves “Christians”, because you’re very clearly NOT.
Oh we are all victims of cruel fate with no agency to improve our own lots! I hate to break it to you but if there is any free will some portion of your fate is in your hands. Concerning Christianity, I never claimed to be religious or superstitious.
I also never said let them die on the streets. Please stop abusing that poor strawman.
I’ve got this feeling my scenario is much more likely than yours all over this country.
Do you? Is that why unemployment is so high? Do you see the roving bands of starving, homeless people constantly begging Fast Food Managers to give them a few hours at a measly minimum wage?
For all your eloquence, you totally missed the point.
The labor market should determine the price of entry-level labor, not the government.
You’re not factoring in that you’re a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world of comfortable nonsense.
Do you? Is that why unemployment is so high? Do you see the roving bands of starving, homeless people constantly begging Fast Food Managers to give them a few hours at a measly minimum wage?
Homeless people get roundfiled. The minimum requirements on the job applications are a place to live, a reliable way to be contacted and reliable transportation.
When you get paid bupkis you invest in the week’s groceries, the rent, the insurance, the utilities etc., and you fall farther and farther behind every month. Will this $472/month be taxable? Will it count as income if people apply for benefits, thereby cutting off a great many of them? Will it be used as an excuse for employers to cut wages and/or benefits?(this last one I can really see happening, btw.)
And? You want things of value? Provide value. You are not owed anything for merely existing.
You’re not factoring in that you’re a delusional moron who lives in a fantasy world of comfortable nonsense.
Isn’t it odd that the morons and idiots are the ones in such superior financial position that our intellectual betters need to beg from us some scraps? How is it the world works in such a paradoxical fashion?
Ok, so I’m going to pick a couple of ‘straw men’ as examples, and let’s see.
1> Amy is a 30 year old mother of a 5 year old, who is in kindergarden half of the day. She gets 30 hours a week at the Piggly-Wiggly because that’s all they’ll give her and she needs time to deal with her child. She gets $9 for this. Her husband Alan works at the local hardware store making all of $10 an hour, full time. Neither of them get any benefits from their jobs and there aren’t a lot of other opportunities for them.
Q: Do you believe a family of 3 with a child and two working adults deserves to live in poverty? Is this entirely their own fault? Is it the government’s job to bail them out with tax credits, SNAP and the like?
2> Bob isn’t the brightest bulb and never went far in life. He’s currently working for a Quick-E-Mart, full time, for $10 an hour with no benefits. He lives in a rented room and doesn’t have much.
Q: Do you believe that it is his just fate to live in poverty, because he isn’t capable of more? Do we as a society just say ‘sucks to be you’ and throw him the occasional tax credit? Because like the song says (Mellencamp - “My name is Junior”), “I’d like to say, man, thanks a lot!”
Or are we only sticking to the real straw man that only young people who should be moving up the ladder have minimum wage (or near minimum wage) jobs?
And? You want things of value? Provide value. You are not owed anything for merely existing.
I knew you wouldn’t actually answer my questions because your answers would reveal the real purpose behind the proposal.
Isn’t it odd that the morons and idiots are the ones in such superior financial position that our intellectual betters need to beg from us some scraps? How is it the world works in such a paradoxical fashion?
Have you paid attention to all the special tax breaks and subsidies we give to those rich people?
They have no business complaining about taking care of the poor.
Homeless people get roundfiled. The minimum requirements on the job applications are a place to live, a reliable way to be contacted and reliable transportation.
You need reliable transportation to hold a job? No way! Seems weird that people would need a way to get to their job :rolleyes:
You need reliable transportation to hold a job? No way! Seems weird that people would need a way to get to their job :rolleyes:
Hey, fuckwad-you wanted to know why the homeless aren’t getting those minimum wage jobs, and I told you. The jobs aren’t theirs to be had.
Have you paid attention to all the special tax breaks and subsidies we give to those rich people?
They have no business complaining about taking care of the poor.
Well use your superior intellect and out rich them then. What’s your excuse? You are the ones with the intellectual gifts. Why are you squandering them?
Oh we are all victims of cruel fate with no agency to improve our own lots! I hate to break it to you but if there is any free will some portion of your fate is in your hands.
Exactly. Things like bankruptcy don’t just “befall” people.
Well use your superior intellect and out rich them then. What’s your excuse? You are the ones with the intellectual gifts. Why are you squandering them?
You’re making the false assumption that Money = Intelligence.
Like most of your base assumptions, they’re based on bullshit.
Ok, so I’m going to pick a couple of ‘straw men’ as examples, and let’s see.
1> Amy is a 30 year old mother of a 5 year old, who is in kindergarden half of the day. She gets 30 hours a week at the Piggly-Wiggly because that’s all they’ll give her and she needs time to deal with her child. She gets $9 for this. Her husband Alan works at the local hardware store making all of $10 an hour, full time. Neither of them get any benefits from their jobs and there aren’t a lot of other opportunities for them.
Q: Do you believe a family of 3 with a child and two working adults deserves to live in poverty? Is this entirely their own fault? Is it the government’s job to bail them out with tax credits, SNAP and the like?
2> Bob isn’t the brightest bulb and never went far in life. He’s currently working for a Quick-E-Mart, full time, for $10 an hour with no benefits. He lives in a rented room and doesn’t have much.Q: Do you believe that it is his just fate to live in poverty, because he isn’t capable of more? Do we as a society just say ‘sucks to be you’ and throw him the occasional tax credit? Because like the song says (Mellencamp - “My name is Junior”), “I’d like to say, man, thanks a lot!”
Or are we only sticking to the real straw man that only young people who should be moving up the ladder have minimum wage (or near minimum wage) jobs?
What city and state do they live in?