# Professor Francis Boyle deserves credit for his findings re: Covid 19!

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**Created:** [November 4, 2021, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794 "2021-11-04T13:31:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/21 "2021-11-04T17:47:57Z")

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> [@Itsokaytohategoogle](#):
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> Boyle is widely involved in many issues all over the world.  
> He found evidence showing a link between the Wuhan Lab and the Univ. of North Carolina BSL-3 lab, and was ignored. He called his evidence “the smoking gun”. The “smoking gun” was a reference to a Chinese researchers presence at Chapel Hill during Gain of Function research, in a scientific paper published by the group at Chapel Hill.  
> He claims the Chinese government provided a grant to the Chapel Hill lab provided that a  
> Chinese researcher from the Wuhan lab could be present while the grant was in effect.  
> the grant was to study Gain of Function research on the Covid virus.  
> The researcher then returned to Wuhan and the rest is considerable, but ignored.  
> Every doctor and assorted medical worker has been given time and space to offer up their unsupported (but assuredly academic sounding), opinions on the origins of Covid 19.  
> He also claims the Chinese did the same with an Australian group.  
> Boyle was (and still is), ignored despite having known where to look, having known the history of such labs and having written this country’s ‘Biological Weapons Anti- **terrorism** Act of 89’, implemented in 1990, amended in 1996 and still in effect today.  
> He claims to have been blacklisted for his public condemnation of the Chapel Hill lab previously for the work they were doing on Sars, as well as more public disclosures regarding other viral outbreaks.  
> I think he has been blacklisted and deserves to be regarded as the only source of early accurate information on Covid 19 and how it arose.  
> Boyle does indeed appear somewhat eccentric, perhaps.  
> He also appears to be much more knowledgeable about these viruses than many so-called experts.  
> To discredit him and his evidence requires more than calling him a “crackpot”. But if that’s all you have to offer, then by all means call him whatever you will.

Wow! That old geezer found all that by himself? Can’t wait for him to show the world his findings.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/22 "2021-11-04T17:50:53Z")

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Dr. Boyle, is that you?

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/23 "2021-11-05T10:53:52Z")

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That’s what I’m doin’!

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/24 "2021-11-05T10:54:53Z")

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Only if you want me to be.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/25 "2021-11-05T11:10:27Z")

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He did it all by himself? You know, he didn’t give credit to anyone else. In fact he said “I think I’ve found the smoking gun.”  
Doesn’t he know he’s too old to act like a super hero?  
For sure he’s a geezer, and that’s for sure, and we all know (well, at least you do), that geezers are geezers and therefore they can’t find a smoking gun if it’s all the way up their pa-tootie!  
How dare he try to say outrageous things like that!!!  
Your post is of very high value. No, really!!! I’m not kidding, not even one little bit!  
I gotta’ take a leak, but I hope to be back soon to offer you more support.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/26 "2021-11-05T11:14:44Z")

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I’ll try to find the video by Prof Boyle. Youtube has removed it several times already, but I imagine it can be found because I have found it several times by different posters.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/27 "2021-11-05T11:17:19Z")

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Hang on, there’s a Chinese researcher\* in my house- does that mean I’m involved too? Aww crap, better turn myself in.

\*She’s a PhD student working on crop genetics- nice girl, did pinch my milk last week though, _and_ she made me get out of bed to let her in when she locked herself out once.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/28 "2021-11-05T11:31:19Z")

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Not in less she’s from the Wuhan BSL-4 lab in Wuhan.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/29 "2021-11-05T11:54:30Z")

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Okay, I’m back eating some crow.  
Here is the same video I’ve referred to, but it’s on another site.  
I clearly substituted Covid 19 into the picture when it shouldn’t have been. The research into Sars and Mers was apparently where the Chinese researcher was at an Australian facility doing animal research on Sars and Mers. Two other papers are cited and several claims made without proof offered. I accept his statements anyway because he wasn’t giving an interview wherein he would be required to produce support documents. He was giving an interview where he was showing 3 documents in support of his claim to having found the “smoking gun” regarding the trail to Covid 19.  
Here it is… [Professor Francis Boyle "I Think I Found The Smoking Gun"](https://www.bitchute.com/video/GoeFHtqFyJhd/)

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/30 "2021-11-05T12:03:54Z")

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> [@Itsokaytohategoogle](#):
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> Okay, I’m back eating some crow.

Maybe you should ask a moderator to close this thread, and then maybe stop trolling this place while you’re at it.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/31 "2021-11-05T12:19:12Z")

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If it’s okay to post a reply designed to provoke a poster, then I presume it’s okay to reply in kind. I hope you can find a sock that you can trock to sleep with.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/32 "2021-11-05T12:28:45Z")

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Well, has anybody considered calling him a “crackpot”? That’s the only thing I can think of.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/33 "2021-11-05T12:37:08Z")

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I believe that any moderator can close this thread at any time and for any reason they might want.

With that in mind, why would I ask one to close it?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/34 "2021-11-05T12:46:46Z")

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Because I thought you said that the video had nothing to do with COVID-19 – it was about SARS or MERS or something. To be honest, I can’t follow your walls of text that well.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/35 "2021-11-05T12:59:14Z")

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Of all the bullshit responses to my post that I’ve read so far, yours is certainly a contender for the Most Harmful Award!!!  
It hurt me really bad!!!  
I hope you feel bad knowing that your highly intelligent response made me feel small and hurt my feelings.  
Don’t worry though, even if it seems to be in order, I’m not going to underestimate you.

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**Author:** ![Itsokaytohategoogle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f475e1/32.png) [@Itsokaytohategoogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Itsokaytohategoogle)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/36 "2021-11-05T13:04:35Z")

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Fair enough.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/37 "2021-11-05T13:24:17Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Even assuming for one second Professor Boyle is correct, what then? Are we supposed to do anything differently other than acknowledging he “deserves credit.”

I was wondering the same thing. How does this change how we should have responded to the pandemic? Or how we should continue to respond?

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/38 "2021-11-05T14:00:30Z")

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> [@Itsokaytohategoogle](#):
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> Of all the bullshit responses to my post that I’ve read so far, yours is certainly a contender for the Most Harmful Award!!!

I feel so honored! I’m off to prepare my acceptance speech…

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**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/39 "2021-11-05T14:39:22Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> > [@Itsokaytohategoogle](#):
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> > Most Harmful Award!!!
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> I feel so honored! I’m off to prepare my acceptance speech…

Excuse me, but my post was “of very high value”!

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/professor-francis-boyle-deserves-credit-for-his-findings-re-covid-19/953794/40 "2021-11-05T14:47:34Z")

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I’m willing to split this award. It comes with enough esteem to share.

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