# Progressives have NOT taken over the Democratic Party **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 13, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-have-not-taken-over-the-democratic-party/833884 "2019-05-13T03:59:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-have-not-taken-over-the-democratic-party/833884/61 "2019-05-16T01:13:05Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The place where “right to repair” is a really big issue is with farm equipment. Not being able to fix your own iPhone is a pain in the ass. Being forced by law to take your tractor to a certified John Deere repair shop instead of fixing it yourself (or taking it to a repair shop with competitive prices) can make the difference between your farm turning a profit or not… Wait, forced by law? It’s not just an issue of maintaining a warranty? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-have-not-taken-over-the-democratic-party/833884/62 "2019-05-16T01:58:03Z")
Wesley Clark is right. Left wingers I know like to point to the rise of “wrong track” polling numbers in the years leading up to the 2016 election. They insist this is about Wall Street, income inequality, etc. Then I point out to them that those numbers were much more positive for black people. They can never explain this, although some are honest enough to admit the numbers surprise them. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-have-not-taken-over-the-democratic-party/833884/63 "2019-05-16T02:17:33Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Wait, forced by law? It’s not just an issue of maintaining a warranty? It is — or was — an issue of law because repairing equipment requires circumventing measures in place to prevent tampering, similar to how jailbreaking locked smartphones arguably violated copyright. I believe both jailbreaking phones and hacking farm equipment have come out in the wash as legal, though. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-have-not-taken-over-the-democratic-party/833884/64 "2019-05-16T05:31:46Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Septimus, I don’t see how I could have been clearer than “opening segment”. If it had been “buried” for a “minute or two” later in the episode, I would have provided a time to skip to. But in this case, you could have just clicked the link and it would have started playing, maybe after an ad reading or two. Mea culpa. Though there is more than a minute of talk before the TYT or CNN poll is even mentioned. AND, literally speaking you _could_ have been clearer, e.g. with a sterner admonition in boldface. 🙂 Or you could have written: “As Nate Silver points out in his latest podcast, the CNN poll was weighted to cover age groups equally and TYT erred in being confused by CNN’s conservative decision to write ‘N/A’ in some of the small-sample subtabs.” I did listen to the first 20 minutes or so. I agree with the woman who accused leftists of sometimes rejecting empirical fact, much as right-wingers do. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-have-not-taken-over-the-democratic-party/833884/65 "2019-05-16T05:39:25Z")
We cool. I’m glad you checked it out. It’s a good podcast, one of my favorites. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/progressives-have-not-taken-over-the-democratic-party/833884.md?page=3)