# Prometheus discussion with open spoilers \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 1, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755 "2012-06-01T09:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/601 "2012-06-24T17:17:35Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Not to mention the captain abandoning the bridge so he could bone Charlize Theron. Ok, now you’re just picking nits. Who wouldn’t abandon the bridge to bone Charlize Theron? I would totally understand that and ask the Captain to make a video. You know they could make an awesome one with all that 3d imagining tech they had laying around, it’s not like it was any use to the two lost guys anyway; may as well make a porno with it. Maybe invite the Engineers over. You know what they say, once you go giant, hairless, albino ubermensch, you never go back…or is it giant squid monster, I forget which. Either way, someone’s getting laid. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/602 "2012-06-24T17:41:20Z")
Btw any racist overtones to the idea that the Ur-Human turns out to look like a bald muscly aryan? Anyone? Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/603 "2012-06-24T17:44:44Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Btw any racist overtones to the idea that the Ur-Human turns out to look like a bald muscly aryan? No. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/604 "2012-06-24T18:00:00Z")
Y’know, I wouldn’t _want_ to be woken up when the ships establishes orbit. Let me sleep in for another few weeks while the ship orbits and maps the entire surface, sending down those little mapping spheres at anything that looks interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/605 "2012-06-24T18:17:56Z")
My opinion is, if you feel you have to accept Scott’s notions about the movie’s meaning, even though they are clearly constructed entirely from fail, just because he’s the director, then you are not too far from accepting Jenny McCarthy’s notions about vaccination and autism, because she’s a celebrity. I’m going with, the BBG are bioengineered supersoldiers from human DNA, the BBG in the beginning was spreading the black goo nanostuff all over the weapons depot planet to save Earth cause he for one had a conscience and wanted to stop the destruction of the human race, and we have not yet met the Enginners … who might well be the Predators. Ridley Scott can suck it. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/606 "2012-06-24T20:30:36Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I’m going with, the BBG are bioengineered supersoldiers from human DNA, the BBG in the beginning was spreading the black goo nanostuff all over the weapons depot planet to save Earth cause he for one had a conscience and wanted to stop the destruction of the human race, and we have not yet met the Enginners … who might well be the Predators. But remember, in the opening scene, the BBG was being watched closely by a huge hovering ship that began leaving only after he swallowed the goo. That doesn’t seem to fit with a lone BBG with a conscience deciding to infect the weapons depot planet; it fits better with the BBGs, as a group, deciding to seed Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/607 "2012-06-24T20:39:54Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > \Not to mention the captain abandoning the bridge so he could bone Charlize Theron. \[URL=“[http://io9.com/5920723/prometheus-makes-much-more-sense-when-you-watch-a-weyland-science-training-session](http://io9.com/5920723/prometheus-makes-much-more-sense-when-you-watch-a-weyland-science-training-session)”] I think I’d abandon my \*mother \*to bone Charlize Theron… (sorry Mom, but you can rest easy, I can’t see this ever becoming an issue.) ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/608 "2012-06-24T20:46:20Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > But remember, in the opening scene, the BBG was being watched closely by a huge hovering ship that began leaving only after he swallowed the goo. That doesn’t seem to fit with a lone BBG with a conscience deciding to infect the weapons depot planet; it fits better with the BBGs, as a group, deciding to seed Earth. …or with it being a clinical trial to see if their plague would work. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/609 "2012-06-25T01:42:10Z")
I liked it. Are there some plot holes and stupid actions you can nitpick to death? Sure. Was it still worth seeing? Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/610 "2012-06-25T03:07:11Z")
> [@holmes](#): > > Ok, now you’re just picking nits. Who wouldn’t abandon the bridge to bone Charlize Theron? > > I would totally understand that and ask the Captain to make a video. You know they could make an awesome one with all that 3d imagining tech they had laying around, it’s not like it was any use to the two lost guys anyway; may as well make a porno with it. Maybe invite the Engineers over. > > You know what they say, once you go giant, hairless, albino ubermensch, you never go back…or is it giant squid monster, I forget which. Either way, someone’s getting laid. > [@Khadaji](#): > > I think I’d abandon my \*mother \*to bone Charlize Theron… > (sorry Mom, but you can rest easy, I can’t see this ever becoming an issue.) I knew when I posted that little nitpick that these would be the responses. But come on. We’re all joking around on an internet message board. Idris Elba was the captain of a deep space exploratory vessel. People had already died on this mission. Even if his lust was uncontrollable, surely he would have called one of his other crew mates to take watch. and surely Charlize would have insisted on that, given how deeply concerned she was for her own survival. Terror of imminent death is a strong anti-aphrodisiac. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/611 "2012-06-25T04:25:31Z")
Nobody had died yet. Though it had been close for the people caught in the sand storm and there were crew members lost in an alien ship so heightened alertness was probably still called for. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/612 "2012-06-25T07:36:14Z")
Details, Details. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/613 "2012-06-27T08:11:46Z")
I think the main points of irritation have been covered in this thread already - I’m certainly of the opinion that it was the potential vs disappointment ratio which made this film almost painful to watch, with the dazzling, immersive 3D visuals just heightening the paucity of script and sense, in contrast. I think I’ve worked out the plot though. In 2015, old Biff Tannen finds an almanac of 20th century sporting outcomes, and a time-travelling Delorean. Having gone back in time and made trillions in winnings he goes ‘back to the future’ and funds a deep space mission, under the guise of ‘Weyland’ to find the alien elixir of youth. This at least explains Guy Pearce’s appearance. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/614 "2012-06-28T02:59:15Z")
I just saw last night and dear god it was bad, i mean really? You cant even get the pilot right Pos **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![JMH125](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JMH125](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JMH125)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/615 "2012-06-28T12:49:14Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > This at least explains Guy Pearce’s appearance. I saw a promo viral video the other day that had a young Guy Pearce playing a young Weyland. I could NOT understand in the movie why they had a young man play such an old man in obviously fake makeup, but seeing him in the video at least they wanted to keep the same actor and have some correlation. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/616 "2012-06-28T13:33:28Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > I just saw last night and dear god it was bad, i mean really? You cant even get the pilot right > > Pos > > **CAPT** Can’t get the pilot right? I don’t know what this means. ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/617 "2012-06-28T13:56:59Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Can’t get the pilot right? I don’t know what this means. I’m assuming he means the space jockey, which means he missed the point of the movie…or he misspelled plot, which means he did. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/618 "2012-06-28T14:07:04Z")
I am now catching on to something I didn’t understand before. It’s been a really long time since I saw Alien so I didn’t make this connection–are the Engineers supposed to be the same species as the pilot from Alien? Some google searching would seem to indicate this is so. Still don’t know, even in that case, what is meant by saying they “couldn’t get the pilot right.” Is he saying it doesn’t look right? ---
**Author:** ![JMH125](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@JMH125](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JMH125)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/619 "2012-06-28T14:13:25Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I am now catching on to something I didn’t understand before. It’s been a really long time since I saw Alien so I didn’t make this connection–are the Engineers supposed to be the same species as the pilot from Alien? Some google searching would seem to indicate this is so. > > Still don’t know, even in that case, what is meant by saying they “couldn’t get the pilot right.” Is he saying it doesn’t look right? Yes, the Engineers are the Space Jockey. “Couldn’t get the pilot right” might mean the movie didn’t end with the pilot in the same position as the space jockey from Alien? But it’s not meant to smoothly dovetail onto Alien, although that would have been nice. Having some of the same sets, chairs and the ship wrecking did cause some confusion. ---
**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755/620 "2012-06-28T14:16:01Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I am now catching on to something I didn’t understand before. It’s been a really long time since I saw Alien so I didn’t make this connection–are the Engineers supposed to be the same species as the pilot from Alien? Some google searching would seem to indicate this is so. > > Still don’t know, even in that case, what is meant by saying they “couldn’t get the pilot right.” Is he saying it doesn’t look right? It depends. Some think the ‘pilot’ wasn’t a just a ‘human’ in a suit and that it was really a different ‘elephant’ looking alien species. There are some books/comics that depict them as being elephant looking aliens. Others are confused and are treating Prometheus as a true prequel to Alien and are upset that the Engineer in Prometheus, doesn’t end up in the same position/chair as the one in Alien. Which would make sense if Prometheus was a prequel as opposed to being a parallel tale. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prometheus-discussion-with-open-spoilers-edited-title/623755.md?page=32)