haha. that sums it up right there. If you aren’t going to have enough action or horror then everything else better be pretty damn good.
No, that’s before the goo starts leaking from the canisters. The soil in the room has got some earthworms in it. I’m not sure why that’s a problem for Cal, though. They’re hardly in a sterile environment, after all. I don’t see any particular problem with their being worms or bugs or other small animal life surviving in the place for a couple thousand years.
Right, it’s very clearly an entirely different planet than the one the Nostromo found. Here’s the world from Prometheus, and here’s the one from Alien. Plus, circumstances of the ship are radically different (pilot not in the chair, pilot room filled with dead humans and a ruined android, no massive alien facility underneath the ship), and the alien that comes out of the Engineer, while similar to the classic alien, is clearly of a different sort. The ship found in Alien may have originally come from this planet, but it’s clearly and unambiguously not the same ship.
That’s actually more or less the plot to Gosford Park.
Noty a sterile planet, huh? There was not a bit of life shown on that world – no plants of any sort. Not even a drop of water. And the “worms” were inside a sealed structure, away from even the sun.
You gotta have energy input for something to live. Even cave life ultimately depends on growing stuff that gets into the cave. These worms are living in sa sealed, sunless enclosure on what appears to be a very dead world.
i don’t think Alien or Aliens have been so rigorously picked apart for their plot holes. Because they don’t have any.
I saw a helpful Prometheus breeding chart on Reddit the other day and thought I’d share. I wish I’d thought of making this myself.
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Mrs. Wilson poisoned him (because of what he did to her and to the women he impregnated & to his illegitimate children). Parks stabbed his corpse (because he was one of those illegitimate children and he was kind of pissed off about it all).
See, at the end of that movie, we know who did what and why.
Well I don’t know, Spoke has that head-scratcher about how a small, very mobile creature on a ship full of food managed to find something to eat.
There’s clouds in the sky in most of the exterior shots of the world, although those don’t necessarily have to be H20. But when they enter the structure and first remove their helmets, there’s water pouring down from the ceiling, and my impression was that it was coming from outside.
A sealed, sunless enclosure that used to be a a biological research (and possibly terraforming) facility, and which is still functioning. Something has to be powering that place, which means some form of energy input, right?
They also took great pains to demonstrate that the room in question had been hermetically sealed, such that mold, corrosion, and black goo didn’t grow over the 2,000 years. How did the worms survive during that time?
Those were obviously zombie worms, like the geologist and Nooni-Cheekbone’s boyfriend.
So the goo made the worms into zombie worms, who then had sexy times with other worms and the product of those unions were the worm-facehuggers that turned the biologist into some nesting material. Remember the biologist had something like a worm-themed chestburster fly out of his mouth when they disturbed his body.
Or something, the writing is a steaming pile of incoherent poop.
As far as i can tell, the xenomorphs don’t eat food as we know it. they just grow fast as hell somehow! 
God knows how long the Queen was on the planet before the colonists arrived. Could have been hundreds of years with no food.
It IS inconsistent, and the writers are probably kicking themselves after all us nerdfans pick apart their baby for from fairly serious plot holes that really, really should have been addressed.
Yeah, what does she REALLY hope to achieve? that they will give her the big backstory and then invite her to live peacefully with them? But i’m not worried about the potential sequels, i’m worried about some of the gaping logic holes in this one, and for i found for the most part a pretty uninteresting cast. Fassbender was amazing, if that android role had failed…the whole movie would have tumbled after it. But he did a worthy job, kudos.
The sequel could be done in 5 minutes. “WTF, a human coming home with one of our ships? I guess that mission we sent to wipe them out didn’t make it, and now they apparently can find our homeworld. Better go send your best unit to wipe out Earth”
Death star blows up Earth.
The end.
I think this difficulty is easily fanwanked away. The alien chestburster catastrophe that wiped out the weapon installation did NOT prevent all ships from launching, one DID launch, but before it could get away aliens wiped out its crew and chestburst the pilot, who had just enough time to set off a warning beacon and steer the ship toward the “Alien” planet.
The more I think about this film, the more it annoys me.
What the hell was it at the beginning, where you pan over an apparently dead world, and finally stop on the one big bald Mr. Clean engineer, who opens his container of DNA soup while flying rock saucer hovers overhead. He drinks it and immediately starts corrupting. On a molecular level, even his DNA goes bklack (how does a molecule turn black?), then starts falling apart and he falls into the waterfall. The DNA goes nice and shiny again. He has evidently seeded the world with his DNA.
Which world? All the reviewers seem to agree it’s the Earth, and that would make the most sense, but it’s never made clear. Of course, if he wanted to seed the world with his DNA, he didn’t need to have such a dramatic exit. He coulda just stabbed himself and fallen into water. Or he could have just lived a normal life and expired there. You know, Alfred Bester’s Adam and No Eve and all. But the Rule of Cool wins out – glitzy deaths play better on-screen.
So the Engineers gave us the starting DNA. But that wouldn’t gurantee that people with essentially the same DNA would eventually result. With the accidents of evolution, you could get anything. Intelligent dinosaurs, maybe, if not for that asteroid. Snouters. In fact, since you can’t make a virtually 100% match unless you had something similar every step of the way, you gotta figure that they were guiding evolution all the time. If not in person, maybe they had nanobots or something. But then they’d still be here. What the hell, it’s fanwankingh. If you really want a colony of people just like you on a world the easiest way is to just leave people there. Why they didn’t do this is a mystery.
But the Engineers had to come back again, because the drawings and carvings show Giants who gave us the Star Map. So, besides the initial Crreation and maybe lots of visits (or, more likely, a constant presence) during our evolution, they were here in historic times, as well. You gotta wonder why they gave us all these mysterious clues, then just left. Why not stay?
So they leave us a Star Map that, in the fullness of time, we learn enough astronomy to figure out. It leads us to – what? Not their Homeworld. Not a storehouse of information. Not another habitable world.
No, it leads to their Highly Toxic Bioweapons Storehouse.
The only way I can figure it is that these guys are the Meanest Fuckers in the Universe, and this is the payoff to a 3 billion year-old practical joke.
Spoke has lots of other plot holes he could mention. Reams of them. But if he told us what they were, we’d discuss them with him. So he’s obviously not going to do that.
hahah!
Oh, yes - the ending. Having awoken from his Long Sleep, the last remaining Mr. Clean alien doesn’t try to find out what happened, but simply offs all the humans and their android, because – I don’t know. You’d think, seeing that the android could talk his language, he’d want to find out what happened while he was out. But, no, he strikes out. Maybe he woke up in a grumpy mood. Maybe the appearance of the humans here on his world reminded him that he and his crew failed to wipe out all life on earth so that they could create somrething new, and he really wants to get on with his work. So he offs everyone he can and takes off to strafe the earth , belatedly, with biohazard bioweapons.
Ummmm – why?
Considering that the stuff is so unbelievably unpredictable and toxic that it killed most of his crew, and they restrict its storage to this one barren planet, why give it all a fecund world to take over, therefore creating even MORE bioweapon life? What’s the point? You can’t recolonize a world with killer goop things, or seed it with new life – the killer goop octopoid tentacled awfulness will just kill the new stuff you’re trying to introduce. If your plan is to scrub the world of all the killer goop life, why bother with the killer goop? Just use your plasma torch/nova bomb/ radioactive plague/whatever to kill the people directly.