# Prominent conservatives issue report rebutting Trump election claims **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 14, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959 "2022-07-14T17:25:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/121 "2022-07-25T02:29:20Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Thank you for your snide condescension. I have read the whole thread (well, I didn’t waste my time slogging through every word of your posts, of course!) Right back at you friend! ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/122 "2022-07-25T16:59:33Z")
Now here, in contrast, is some actual news about actual prominent conservatives turning on Trump: [(from the Guardian)](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jul/25/new-york-post-trump-murdoch-wall-street-journal-fox-news) > The [New York Post --TF] editorial, in a tabloid owned by Murdoch [since 1976](https://nypost.com/2021/03/11/happy-90th-birthday-to-rupert-murdoch-savior-of-the-post/), began: “As his followers stormed the Capitol, calling for his vice-president to be hanged, President Donald Trump sat in his private dining room, watching TV, doing nothing. For three hours, seven minutes.” > > Trump’s only focus, the Post said, was to block the peaceful transfer of power. > > “As a matter of principle, as a matter of character, Trump has proven himself unworthy to be this country’s chief executive again.” > > The Wall Street Journal, another Murdoch paper, issued a [similar](https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-president-who-stood-still-donald-trump-jan-6-committee-mike-pence-capitol-riot-11658528548) critique in which it said evidence before the House January 6 committee was a reminder that “Trump betrayed his supporters”. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/123 "2022-07-25T20:00:25Z")
This is a start but until Fox News denounces him along with their primetime toadies like Tucker Carlson and Hannity it isn’t nearly enough. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/124 "2022-07-25T20:37:52Z")
Seriously. Even the con man was watching Faux on the 6th. Of course, Republican congresspeople could give it a go, but they refuse to do so. (save two.) Take it back to their states and districts, and speak the honest truth to those that they represent. But, being Republicans, they never will. The 6th will happen again before Republicans actually speak the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/125 "2022-07-25T21:39:09Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The 6th will happen again before Republicans actually speak the truth. I believe their plan is that the 6th will happen again, only this time they will “win”, and there will be no more pesky elections. Their goal is no longer to win elections by convincing the majority of voters that they have the best platform and policies. They gave up on this quite some time ago. The goal now is to take over all aspects of government, eliminate any opposition, and take over complete control so the minority rules the majority by force. They see themselves being the “top of the heap” in this new order, and are quite looking forward to it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/126 "2022-07-25T21:59:48Z")
Certainly. And when I said that the 6th would happen again before Republicans speak the truth, there was an implied “happen again repeatedly”. And if the con man and his cronies are shown to be above the law, well then forget the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/127 "2022-07-26T15:12:29Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > In my observations, those people have the ability to say: “I never said that and I never supported that person”, only to show them saying the thing and supporting the person a few weeks or months previously. Whatever they believe to be true right now is what they believe and they have the complete cognitive dissonance to believe they never believed the exact opposite previously. We have always been at war with ~~Eurasia~~ Eastasia. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/128 "2022-07-26T16:11:37Z")
Exactly!! As much as the Science Fiction community wants to claim that Gene Roddenberry was able to accurately portray the future, it was Orwell who really did. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/129 "2022-07-26T20:13:28Z")
> [@Temporary\_Name](#): > > As much as the Science Fiction community wants to claim that Gene Roddenberry was able to accurately portray the future Wrong thing to say on this Board. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/130 "2022-07-27T01:46:02Z")
Well I am not even sure how I got this one wrong? “…to claim that _Isaac Asimov_ was able to accurately portray…” ??? No disrespect toward Mr. Roddenberry intended; the fact that Trump and what he has turned the GOP into is verging on creating an Orwellian future IS intended. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/131 "2022-07-27T03:00:29Z")
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a shoe, not any shoe, the best shoe, with silk laces and solid gold aglets, slowly shuffling on a human face - forever. G. Orwell, _2024_ [![](https://i.insider.com/5f74e3d974fe5b0018a8e593?width=500) ](https://i.insider.com/5f74e3d974fe5b0018a8e593?width=500) ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959/132 "2022-07-27T04:05:31Z")
Okay, I promise not to go off topic again, but that photo reminded me of this choice from the last election: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fHjbDSOmeiM/maxresdefault.jpg "What Undecided Voters Look Like To Everyone Else") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHjbDSOmeiM) The patient is such a perfect Trump voter!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prominent-conservatives-issue-report-rebutting-trump-election-claims/967959.md?page=6)