# pronouncing the county that Annapolis, MD is in **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 25, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270 "2012-06-25T17:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![piepiepie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/41 "2012-06-26T12:40:58Z")
Just don’t pronounce the r: Have de Grace. Of course, some people I know shop at the “Weese” in “Haver” de Grace, so maybe I’m saying it wrong. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/42 "2012-06-26T12:52:45Z")
> [@colonial](#): > > Come to think of it Norfolk VA natives often pronounce the name of the dump NAWfuck, > and they are not joking-- I have heard local newscasters pronounce it that way. > Some holdover from colonial-era English maybe. Or It could be toxic polluted seafood or excess sodium content in the air, I guess. My mom says NAWfick and that is what I learned, but she is originally from across the state line in NC. Now that I’m all worldly and stuff I say NAWfuck. A lot of folks say NORfuck as in “we don’t drink, we don’t smoke, Norfuck, Norfuck!” ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/43 "2012-06-26T13:11:38Z")
There’s an Arundel (and Arundel Castle), in West Sussex, England. That is pronounced ˈærəndəl (or, roughly, “ARR-uhn-dle”). I wondered if there was a link, and apparently there is - [Anne Arundell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Arundell) (whatever happened to that second “l”, anyway?) was born there. As for Norfolk, the one in England is also pronounced NOR-fuhk. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/44 "2012-06-26T14:14:28Z")
> [@piepiepie](#): > > Just don’t pronounce the r: Have de Grace. Of course, some people I know shop at the “Weese” in “Haver” de Grace, so maybe I’m saying it wrong. 😛 I’m originally from the other side of Ballmer and I have to know: what is the “Weese?” In Glen Burnie we pronounce it **Have-er** de Grace. ---
**Author:** ![piepiepie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e47774/32.png) [@piepiepie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piepiepie)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/45 "2012-06-26T14:26:31Z")
Weis Supermarkets. Some say “wise,” some say “weese,” but all agree they’re overpriced. And “have-er” is what I meant by “haver.” My grandfather would say “Hahve de Grass” like how I imagine some Bostonians would say Harvard in dialect. Not sure about the grass. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/46 "2012-06-26T15:15:43Z")
piepiepie–Weis supermarkets? How recent? I thought after Grand Union, and then Giant, tanked everybody went to the 24 hr Super Wal-mart. What is it about Maryland? We don’t even pronounce our own **state** correctly. It’s like we took every English speaking dialect out back the wood shed and beat it to death with a rock, then stitched them all together and wear them like a really disgusting poncho. PROUDLY!! Didn’t mean to correct your pronunciation of HdG. Grass? That’s a new one on me. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/47 "2012-06-26T15:47:43Z")
I loved my time in Bawlmer, where folks used paramours to cut the grass. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/48 "2012-06-26T16:26:44Z")
The Havre de Grass? ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/49 "2012-06-26T16:39:51Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > piepiepie–Weis supermarkets? How recent? I thought after Grand Union, and then Giant, tanked everybody went to the 24 hr Super Wal-mart. Weis and Giant are very much alive. If you don’t live near Baltimore or in Bowie or Landover, there’s no such thing as Walmart. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/50 "2012-06-26T18:06:44Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > Newark, NY is also pronounced New-Ark. > > New-ark 2, Noork 1. > > Of course, the NJ one outweighs the other two by quite a bit populationwise. And I don;t know how Newark, Ohio is pronounced. Same as NJ. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/51 "2012-06-26T18:35:50Z")
Counties: Ann Uh Run Dul Bal Mer Why Com Ih Co Wooster Door Chester Summer Set Towns: Have A Disgrace Sauls Bury Lah Playta Dun Dock People: Baltimorons Phrases: You eat arsters. They come from the wooder. From downy oshun. Hun. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/52 "2012-06-26T18:40:34Z")
I have nothing to add. I bow to the master. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/53 "2012-06-26T18:51:14Z")
Now I wanna go crabbin’. Got any chicken legs and string? ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/54 "2012-06-26T19:38:10Z")
[Trotline using bull lips.](http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW1cjXxs6ak&feature=youtube_gdata_player) ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/55 "2012-06-26T20:43:41Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > Now I wanna go crabbin’. Got any chicken legs and string? In the mom-and-pop grocery I worked in in **hah** (“a” as in “odd”) **skoo** , it was chicken **necks** for crabbin.’ ---
**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/56 "2012-06-26T20:52:19Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > … Anne Arundell (whatever happened to that second “l”, anyway?) … It’s actually the _first_ L that was lost. Not many people know that. Sometimes the E in “Anne” was lost too. [Here’s a 1750s map](http://cdm.lib.udel.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/hmc&CISOPTR=362&REC=1) of the area, which shows it as “Ann Arundel County”. (Zoom in to just a bit north-west of Annapolis.) ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/57 "2012-06-26T22:03:16Z")
> [@2gigch1](#): > > Trotline using bull lips. Fixed link too late to edit on iPhone. ---
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> [@DCnDC](#): > > Weis and Giant are very much alive. If you don’t live near Baltimore or in Bowie or Landover, there’s no such thing as Walmart. But is “Bowie” |'bu i|, |'bou i|, |'bau i|–some variation thereupon-or something unholy? ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270/59 "2012-06-27T01:05:28Z")
Boo Eee ---
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> [@2gigch1](#): > > Fixed link too late to edit on iPhone. YUM. My only trotline experience is my uncles catfish lines in Alabama. That was yummy too, but not anything like crabs in Old Bay. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronouncing-the-county-that-annapolis-md-is-in/626270.md?page=4)