# Pronunciacions that make you seethe with anger!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 27, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978 "2008-03-27T22:06:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/241 "2008-04-04T19:32:13Z")

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Any mispronounciation of a brand name. Top offenders:

-“Reese’s” pronounced to rhyme with “species” as opposed to the possesive form of “Reese.” It has an apostrophe in it! They’re the peanut butter cups of Mr. Reese!  
-“Swiffer” pronounced as “Swifter”  
-“Poland Spring” pluralizes as “Poland Springs”

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[QUOTE=mobo85]  
Any mispronounciation of a brand name. Top offenders:

-“Reese’s” pronounced to rhyme with “species”  
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Agh! Didn’t you read post No. 202? _Species_ has a “sh” in it!

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/243 "2008-04-04T21:28:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Biffy the Elephant Shrew]  
More to the point: how do you pronounce “schism” or “schizoid,” which are derived from the same Greek root as “schedule” (_skhizein_, to split or divide)?  
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This argument doesn’t work when you also include the verb ‘shed’ into the group from that root.

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“Relator” bothers me, as do many of the other examples in the thread, but they don’t drive me over the edge like SELL-tick does. That cursed team in Boston is responsible for millions of people not knowing how to pronounce the word “Celtic.”

[QUOTE=RedFury]  
FTR, it is true that I really _couldn’t_ care less about this whole RO.  
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I’ve been seeing “RO” in thread titles, and now twice in this thread, and I can’t figure out from context what the heck it means. What is “RO”?

[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
My dialect of English has tended to lose the Y-sound in words like ‘tune’ and ‘due’  
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The word “tune” has a Y sound in it?

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/245 "2008-04-04T22:58:32Z")

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[QUOTE=InvisibleWombat]  
That cursed team in Boston is responsible for millions of people not knowing how to pronounce the word “Celtic.”  
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Yet the Glasgow namesake (and soundalike) doesn’t prevent millions of Brits getting it right in all other situations. Maybe it’s not the team’s fault?

[QUOTE=InvisibleWombat]  
The word “tune” has a Y sound in it?  
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Yes - otherwise it would be spelt ‘toon’. 😃

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/246 "2008-04-04T23:10:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Squeaker Snow]  
"I’ve got an “ideal” rather than “idea.”

Grrrr…  
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Don’t ever visit Bristol (UK), then. 🙂

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/247 "2008-04-05T00:45:10Z")

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Orientate.

This word is wearing on my last nerve. You orient things, not orientate. After hearing her say it several times I finally corrected someone, very politely, and it felt wonderful.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2008, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/248 "2008-04-05T02:11:58Z")

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[QUOTE=acsenray]  
Agh! Didn’t you read post No. 202? _Species_ has a “sh” in it!  
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Ah, you’re right re: pronounciation of “species.” Didn’t think about that. (I was going to use “feces,” but I thought that was too disgusting to use combined with a food product.)

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I apoligize fot reading the entire five-page thread, but I saw it and soemthing that’s been bugging me for a while …  
I’ve only met two people who do this, and they are both college professors. I don;t know if it’s some kind of damn accent …

Words that start with “h” and pronouncing it like a “y”.

“We are human beings” comes out sounding like “We are you-man beings.”

It’s so slight, but it bugs the living hell outta me!!

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[QUOTE=Pazu]  
“Sontimeters” (by English speakers in the US).

For that matter, pretty much any time this pseudo-French modification occurs (for some reason, it’s very common in the medical community): _exenteration_ pronounced “exonteration”, for instance.  
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Also ON-velope.

There was an earlier thread about whether it was correct to say “from whence”. Although it appears that “from whence” is well established in the standard language, I still don’t like it. It’s like a badly written program that has unused variables.

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[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus]  
Also ON-velope.

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Yeah, everybody knows it’s pronounced “onveloaf.”

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[QUOTE=InvisibleWombat]  
I’ve been seeing “RO” in thread titles, and now twice in this thread, and I can’t figure out from context what the heck it means. What is “RO”?  
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“Recreational Outrage,” i.e., getting exercised about something that doesn’t actually affect you.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/253 "2008-04-09T03:01:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Askance]  
I really don’t know. I think it might have been by unconscious analogy with other Spanish words that came my way, such as Los Alamos and Los Angeles - perhaps I extrapolated that Spanish words that ended in vowel-S are not plurals, even when rendered in English. In Australia we don’t come across Spanish words as routinely as USAns must.  
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Oh dear. Any word preceded by the word “Los” or “Las” is plural. Los Angeles means “The Angels.” Unfortunately, I can’t remember what Alamos means off the top of my head. Singular words are preceded by “El” or “La” except in the case of meaning _of the_ which is “del” instead when the noun is masculine (de+el= del.; de + la = de la)

An example of singular vs plural:  
El Nino - The Boy  
Los Ninos - The Boys or The Children (any mixed gendered group takes the masculine form, even if there’s 1 boy and 1000 girls)

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]  
Oh dear. Any word preceded by the word “Los” or “Las” is plural. Los Angeles means “The Angels.” Unfortunately, I can’t remember what Alamos means off the top of my head.  
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Elms.

> [@](#):
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> An example of singular vs plural:  
> El Nino - The Boy  
> Los Ninos - The Boys or The Children (any mixed gendered group takes the masculine form, even if there’s 1 boy and 1000 girls)

Which is why you get literal translations like “I have four sons: two females and two males”. (_tengo cuatro hijos: dos hembras y dos varones_). 🙂

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]  
Oh dear. Any word preceded by the word “Los” or “Las” is plural. Los Angeles means “The Angels.” Unfortunately, I can’t remember what Alamos means off the top of my head. Singular words are preceded by “El” or “La” except in the case of meaning _of the_ which is “del” instead when the noun is masculine (de+el= del.; de + la = de la)

An example of singular vs plural:  
El Nino - The Boy  
Los Ninos - The Boys or The Children (any mixed gendered group takes the masculine form, even if there’s 1 boy and 1000 girls)  
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Yep, I pointed this out in post 222. I don’t know if **Askance** missed it, or if he’s still too occupied with :smack: ing himself that he hasn’t had time to reply yet. 😛

-FrL-

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People who pronounce “Why” as “How come”

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This relates to the “Annoying Local Newscast” threads.

One local anchor drives me nuts with such gems as “West-consin” and February minus the middle R.

There’s also a weekend/vacation relief anchorwoman who slurs her words, stammers, and can’t even compensate by looking somewhat attractive. Someone’s girlfriend?wife?ex-wife demanding less alimony for the opportunity to be on TV? Affirmative action hire?

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minor one:

chipotle

chi-pot-le

not chi-pol-te

but i know that’s a hard combination of letters and nahautl words are notoriously hard to replicate from an english standpoint.

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]  
Singular words are preceded by “El”…  
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I’ve never been able to believe that the Steely Dan brianiacs could come up with a line that says, “I detect **the El Supremo** from the room at the top of the stairs.” (From _Showbiz Kids_)

Don! Walt! Off to the Department of Redundancy Department with the both of you!

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[QUOTE=Starving Artist]  
I’ve never been able to believe that the Steely Dan brianiacs could come up with a line that says, “I detect **the El Supremo** from the room at the top of the stairs.” (From _Showbiz Kids_)

Don! Walt! Off to the Department of Redundancy Department with the both of you!  
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I usually shrug off grammatically quesionable Dan lyrics by saying they’re just in character. OTOH if the singer in the song’s supposed to be well-educated and isn’t clearly making a joke, that’s another story… (haven’t heard the song in question, though.)

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