# Pronunciacions that make you seethe with anger!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 27, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978 "2008-03-27T22:06:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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[Just for you, **GameHat**.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DW8ecqu0Iw)

😛

And welcome to the Dope, in case nobody has mentioned it yet.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/142 "2008-03-29T06:42:27Z")

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“_Vun_erable” is the big one amongst Australians (including newscasters and reporters who are freakin’ well PAID to know better). That drives me somewhat batshit.  
On a positive note, there are some quaint ones I actually like in small doses: chimbly, pasghetti, beresk, fillum…

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**Author:** ![GameHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@GameHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GameHat)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/143 "2008-03-29T07:50:34Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
[Just for you, **GameHat**.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DW8ecqu0Iw)

😛

And welcome to the Dope, in case nobody has mentioned it yet.  
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My very first welcome to the boards!

…and it’s a vehicle to espouse the abominable “expresso” pronunciation.

Oh, we shall meet again, _sir_.

😃

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/144 "2008-03-29T08:14:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Vlad/Igor]  
Nucular. Nuculus (said by a PhD. no less!).  
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Legit alt pronuciations. Not that I like them, but most of the ire appears (IMHO) to be more due to dislike of the current Prez than the word itself.

I also give “for-tay” a pass, as otherwise it is hard to tell from “fort” (as in fortress), and the two words can cross over in a limited context.

“That’s his fort”. Forte or fortress?

So, I think “for-tay” is better, actually.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/145 "2008-03-29T08:21:41Z")

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[QUOTE=GameHat]

…and it’s a vehicle to espouse the abominable “expresso” pronunciation.

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How do you think it should be pronounced and how do you think it is being mis-pronounced? 😕

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/146 "2008-03-29T08:30:41Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
How do you think it should be pronounced and how do you think it is being mis-pronounced? 😕  
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Should be pronounced much the same way it’s spelt eh? Espresso.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/147 "2008-03-29T09:36:48Z")

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Near the top of my list of Pronunciation Hates is “Jag-Wahr” for _Jaguar_. It’s “Jag-Yoo-Ar”, dammit!

I get driven mad by The History Channel (amongst others) pronouncing _Carbine_ as “Carbeen”. The correct way to pronounce the word is “Carbuyne”, regardless of what you lot in the US might think. Ditto _Aluminium_. There’s a second “i” in it, folks.

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**Author:** ![Martha\_Medea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Martha\_Medea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martha_Medea)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/148 "2008-03-29T10:31:50Z")

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British newsreaders pronouncing the Spanish name _Vicente_ as ‘ViNcentay’ - as in “(then) Mexican president ViNcentay Fox”. There’s no N there, can’t you read?

Not just _eXpresso_, but _moCHa_ -with the CH pronounced the English way - grates on my nerves.

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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/149 "2008-03-29T10:52:38Z")

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> And I thought the British were supposed to be all about classy, correct behavior.

😃😕 :dubious: :smack: 😃

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> [http://www.stoppagingme.com/articles.php?articleId=27](http://www.stoppagingme.com/articles.php?articleId=27) hehe number one on the top 5 most annoying medical terms 😛

“Throw another shrimp on the barbie” is meant to invoke images of Australia, not England.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/150 "2008-03-29T11:08:03Z")

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My mother pronounces “mature” as “Ma-TOUR”. According to [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com), that is indeed correct, but it still makes me want to scream.

She is also one who says “ad-VER-tis-ment” and “HAR-iss-ment.”

Scream, scream, scream.

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**Author:** ![essell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@essell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/essell)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/151 "2008-03-29T11:16:49Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
And I thought the British were supposed to be all about classy, correct behavior.  
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The thing is, _we_ get to decide what’s correct.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/152 "2008-03-29T12:03:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Capt. Ridley’s Shooting Party]  
“Throw another shrimp on the barbie” is meant to invoke images of Australia…  
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Not here, it doesn’t.

“Chuck some more snags on, will ya Wozza?” - maybe.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/153 "2008-03-29T12:30:39Z")

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[QUOTE=TheLoadedDog]  
Not here, it doesn’t.

“Chuck some more snags on, will ya Wozza?” - maybe.  
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Nobody- and I want to stress this- NOBODY- here barbecues shrimp. It’s just not done. Steak, yes. Sausages? Absolutely. Chicken? indeed. Pork? Of course. Fish? quite acceptable. But shrimp? Not this side of a Tourism ad.

This Public Service Announcement has been bought to you by **Martini Enfield** , making sweeping cultural statements on the SDMB since 2006. 😃

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[QUOTE=warmark]  
“Worsh” for “wash”, or really any substitution of “or” for the “ah” sound that seems common around here.  
Also, speaking of medical terms, my GP once told me that my dysphagia may be due to a “higher lateral hernia.”  
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Ah! I live in Cincinnati, manage two carwashes, and I hear that a LOT from the older people of German descent.  
I HATE it.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/155 "2008-03-29T12:53:33Z")

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“Unchart **er** ed waters.”

Drives me up a wall, because you often hear otherwise intelligent people spreading this mispronunciation. Robert Rubin on NPR yesterday, for example.

It’s **uncharted** waters, friends. No “er” in there.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/156 "2008-03-29T12:59:33Z")

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Oh yeah, and when you’re talking about men on horses, it’s **cavalry**.

When you’re talking about men on crosses, it’s **Calvary**.

Know the difference, please.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/157 "2008-03-29T13:00:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Martini Enfield]  
Nobody- and I want to stress this- NOBODY- here barbecues shrimp. It’s just not done. Steak, yes. Sausages? Absolutely. Chicken? indeed. Pork? Of course. Fish? quite acceptable. But shrimp? Not this side of a Tourism ad.  
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Ironically, I have had - and enjoyed - shrimp on the barbie. Ironic, because of all the supposed _Australian-ness_, i’ve only ever done it at Vietnamese barbeques. It’s actually not bad.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/158 "2008-03-29T13:05:36Z")

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I am not without sin. I’ve been mispronouncing “quixotic” for years.

And I mispronounced “victuals” for a long time.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciacions-that-make-you-seethe-with-anger/442978/159 "2008-03-29T13:58:59Z")

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[QUOTE=GameHat]  
One of my co-workers says “expresso”. It’s like fingernails on the blackboard of my soul. I’ve told her how much it bugs me, so she goes out of her way to say “expresso” just to me.  
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One of the _servers_ at my favorite local coffee shop says this. I clearly order a double espresso and she acknowledges an order for “double expresso.” Of course, in my awesome, Christlike magnanimity, I forgive the poor child.

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[QUOTE=Martini Enfield]  
Nobody- and I want to stress this- NOBODY- here barbecues shrimp. It’s just not done. Steak, yes. Sausages? Absolutely. Chicken? indeed. Pork? Of course. Fish? quite acceptable. But shrimp? Not this side of a Tourism ad.

This Public Service Announcement has been bought to you by **Martini Enfield** , making sweeping cultural statements on the SDMB since 2006. 😃  
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The problem is not the barbecuing, it’s more that Aussies generally don’t call them shrimp, they call them prawns. As far as the BBQing side of it goes, define BBQ. I have had, though it is rare, prawns cooked on the flat plate of a BBQ, however, much more often I have had prawns cooked in garlic, butter, and chili on a frying pan on the side-burner of a BBQ. It’s still on a BBQ eh?

On the subject of aluminium we all just have to recognise that there are two different words. We have an extra i in there and we pronounce it, they don’t have the i and they don’t pronounce it. All internally consistent and fine by me. I’m much more distressed by nucular because it is adding syllables that don’t exist in the written word.

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