# Pronunciation of "Cache".

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**Created:** [November 15, 2007, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514 "2007-11-15T09:30:40Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/21 "2007-11-15T14:17:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Hari Seldon]  
There is a joke (from the days of the Soviet invasion) whose punch line is, “Can you cache a Czech?” which should be a good mnemonic.  
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Actually, in Soviet Russia…

(Sorry.)

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/22 "2007-11-15T14:17:58Z")

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[QUOTE=asterion]  
I don’t hear it from the military. Where I often hear that mispronounciation is in IT, where cache is used for several different storage areas. Then again, I’m not sure IT people are real either.  
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While the jury’s out on that, I’m in IT and have never heard it from IT people. Nor anyone else, although it’s possible I have and thought they were saying “cachet”.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/23 "2007-11-15T14:23:41Z")

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What’s confusing in the IT world is that there is a well-known database management system called Caché. Presumbaly they call it “cash-ay.” Not to be confused with cache in the IT sense, of course. Can’t have that, now, can we?

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/24 "2007-11-15T14:29:29Z")

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Cache is also used in the term cachepot, which means a decorative pot that you put an aleady potted plant in, as I recall from my days of working at Crate & Barrel. Here’s an example:

> **[Furniture, Home Decor and Wedding Registry | Crate and Barrel](https://www.crateandbarrel.com/)**
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> Shop Crate and Barrel to find everything you need to outfit your home. Browse furniture, home decor, cookware, dinnerware, wedding registry and more.

IIRC, it was generally pronounced “cash pot.”

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/25 "2007-11-15T15:07:12Z")

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[QUOTE=robardin]  
“Cache”, meaning “stash”, a hidden or squirreled away store of supplies, is properly pronounced “cash” as it would be (more or less) in French.  
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This is what I normally think people are referring to when I hear something pronounced “cashay.” Of course in my current life, it’s almost computer related (same meaning, though). Or being that I live in Detroit (well, the “Detroit area”) sometimes it’s “a cache of weapons.” 😉

> [@](#):
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> On the other hand, there is another French loanword in English that _is_ pronounced “Cash-ay”: _cachet_, most commonly meaning (in English) “mark of prestige”, “sellability”, “Q factor”. More archaically, it also refers to a physical stamp or imprint, a “maker’s mark”, from which the modern sense derives.  
> . . .  
> What I think is that a lot of people are _misspelling_ “cachet” as “cache” thinking it’s a Spanish word frequently used in English, like _ole_ or _hombre_, since they hear “cash-ay” all the time and are more used to dealing with Spanish than French.

Interestingly enough, “cachet” is a perfectly good loaner-word in Mexican Spanish, spelt as you see it, with the same meaning as you define it, with the only difference being the common-Spanish-loanword-technique of pronouncing it phoenetically in Spanish, or as you allude to, “cach-et.”

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/26 "2007-11-15T15:17:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
While the jury’s out on that, I’m in IT and have never heard it from IT people. Nor anyone else, although it’s possible I have and thought they were saying “cachet”.  
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Really? You are in IT and never hear the term Cache?

Internet Cache, temporary Cache, memory cache in hard-drives, RAM and even motherboards and CPUs?

But you’ve never heard that? I think even Networking has Caches in routers and switches.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/27 "2007-11-15T15:19:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Epimetheus]  
Really? You are in IT and never hear the term Cache?

Internet Cache, temporary Cache, memory cache in hard-drives, RAM and even motherboards and CPUs?

But you’ve never heard that? I think even Networking has Caches in routers and switches.  
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Really? Pronounced “Cashay?” You learn something new every day.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/28 "2007-11-15T16:11:37Z")

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I think I misunderstood your position. Sorry, I thought you were saying you have never heard the term (no matter the pronunciation), upon re-reading the post you quoted, I see my error.

I blame lack of sleep.

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[QUOTE=glee]  
Bonjour mon amis!  
Malheuresement, je parle Francais seulement un petit peu, mais je dit cache ‘cash’.

And so do the rest of us English chappies wot have had a few ‘annees’ of French ‘a l’ecole’.

Guanolad is right about cachet (=‘cash-ay’).  
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And then there’s _caché_, that **PaulParkHead** mentioned, which pronounced much like _cachet_, but semantically related to _cache_. _Cache_ is “hiding place” and _caché_ is the past participle of the verb “to hide”.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/30 "2007-11-15T17:25:36Z")

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You stash your cash in a cache. If you sashay with flambe, you gain cachet.

WhyNot,  
Firedancer

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/31 "2007-11-15T17:34:30Z")

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I have always pronounced it like \*\*GuanoLad \*\* does. I learned that pronunciation in Alaska, when I first encountered the Book Cache chain of book stores.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/32 "2007-11-15T17:51:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Epimetheus]  
Really? You are in IT and never hear the term Cache?

Internet Cache, temporary Cache, memory cache in hard-drives, RAM and even motherboards and CPUs?

But you’ve never heard that? I think even Networking has Caches in routers and switches.  
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**Ludovic** was saying he’s never heard anyone pronounce it wrong.

I’ve been in IT and software engineering for a decade in a lot of different companies and have never heard it pronounced “cash-ay,” either. And we talk about caches and caching all the damn time,

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/33 "2007-11-15T17:54:12Z")

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[QUOTE=robardin]  
I think few people even use the word “cache” very much, unless you’re in Special Ops or are a survivalist planning for a post-apocalyptic disaster scenario.  
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Or as mentioned, in IT. I’m functional, but I get told to empty my such-and-such cache now and then to troubleshoot issues.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/34 "2007-11-15T18:38:33Z")

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[QUOTE=gigi]  
Or as mentioned, in IT. I’m functional, but I get told to empty my such-and-such cache now and then to troubleshoot issues.  
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Exactly. Because when it comes to computers, cache and carry can be a real problem. You get what you pay for.

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In IT I heard it occasionally, but it was the [DEL]l[/DEL]users that said “cashay”, not fellow IT dweebs. Usually when they were trying to impress someone with their knowledge of all things computery.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-cache/426514/36 "2007-11-15T19:08:29Z")

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[QUOTE=friedo]  
**Ludovic** was saying he’s never heard anyone pronounce it wrong.

I’ve been in IT and software engineering for a decade in a lot of different companies and have never heard it pronounced “cash-ay,” either. And we talk about caches and caching all the damn time,  
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I haven’t heard it from any IT people, but from users all the time. I was telling my SO the other day to delete her cookies and empty her cache file and she said “whats that?” and I pointed it out and she exclaimed “You mean cashay?” No, it’s pronounced cash. Her response was to argue the point for several minutes.

I find it hard to believe you have NEVER heard it pronounced cashay, though I suppose anything is possible.  
And I realize what he meant, which is why right under his post I apologized.

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[QUOTE=sandra\_nz]  
I pronounce it cayshe, not cash. Didn’t realise I was saying it wrong all this time!  
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Yeah - like in, “Hello. I’m Johnny Cayshe.” I’ve heard him do that a lot.  
Nope - it’s cash, because it’s a place to store things. Anyone who is from the pre-computer era will call it that because that’s still what it is, in a way.

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I work at a business on a street name ending in “Cache”. It’s annoying to hear the company owner continually mispronounce it as _Cah-shay_ but I suffer quietly and take solace in saying it correctly.

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[QUOTE=Balthisar]  
I’ve never, ever heard any _real_ person say “cashay,” although it was prevalent as hell in my military days (and drove me crazy as hell, too). (Okay, military people are real people too.)  
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That’s the thing. I’m surrounded by military people. And, coincidentally, surrounded by weapons and munitions caches every single day. Everyone is _always_ talking about the “cash-ay” and calling up on the radio “we found another buried ‘cash-ay’” or “there’s an IED ‘cash-ay’ over here”…  
ARGH! Well, it got even worse a couple days ago when I was talking to another person about the cache that I found. And he was like, “The cash-ay!?” Putting extra emphasis on the word as if to correct me.

It’s become so bad that I figured maybe either pronounciation was okay. Much like Culinary and Forte… maybe it’s one of those arguable things. I’m glad I started this thread to learn that they’re all miserably wrong!

I fucking hate these people, anyway!

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[QUOTE=Bear\_Nenno]  
I was talking to another person about the cache that I found. And he was like, “The cash-ay!?” Putting extra emphasis on the word as if to correct me.  
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I hope you said ‘No, **cash**. If you don’t know how to pronounce a word, don’t use it.’ 😃

I’ve always heard and said ‘cash’, except for in George Romero’s _Knightriders_ ([WC Fields] We seem to have discovered a cash-ay of the elusive spondulix. [/WCF]). Until, that is, the recent quagmire started. Then I heard military personnel mis-pronouncing it all over the place.

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