# Pronunciation of "Rodeo"
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [December 22, 2006, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209 "2006-12-22T11:07:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209/61 "2006-12-23T21:45:44Z")
[QUOTE=Civil Guy]
Then there’s the truly odd one: Junipero Avenue, pronounced locally, get ready, HWAN-ee-pear-oe. No explanation is possible.
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Interesting. I280 that runs between SJ and SF is also called The Junipero Serra Freeway, and although that term is not often used, when it is it’s usually pronounced “you-NIP-er-o”, as if the “J” weren’t even there.
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### Author:  [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209/62 "2006-12-23T23:17:23Z")
[QUOTE=CBEscapee]
It isn’t dependent on the dialect.
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It’s my impression that the interdental fricatives (as in English _this thing_) are definitely something that exist only in European Spanish, not in Latin American Spanish.
Of course, it’s possible that what’s being discussed here is a _dental_ [d] sound (common in Indian languages, for example). Often Anglos are told that it’s like the sound in _they_, because Indians don’t have the “th” sound. It becomes a big clustermess.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2006, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209/63 "2006-12-24T00:02:40Z")
[QUOTE=acsenray]
It’s my impression that the interdental fricatives (as in English _this thing_) are definitely something that exist only in European Spanish, not in Latin American Spanish.
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Note CBEscapee’s location.
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### Author:  [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209/64 "2006-12-24T01:55:58Z")
[QUOTE=CBEscapee]
Make up your mind.
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Context would have helped, of course.
At any rate, the point throughout is about the same
In spanish the D sounds closer to the D in day than to the TH in They.
It may not be a perfect match to every D of every word in english. But it is mostly closer to D than to TH even if we can come up with a handful of exceptions and special cases.
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### Author:  [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209/65 "2006-12-24T03:34:53Z")
[QUOTE=acsenray]
It’s my impression that the interdental fricatives (as in English _this thing_) are definitely something that exist only in European Spanish, not in Latin American Spanish.
Of course, it’s possible that what’s being discussed here is a _dental_ [d] sound (common in Indian languages, for example). Often Anglos are told that it’s like the sound in _they_, because Indians don’t have the “th” sound. It becomes a big clustermess.
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You are talking about _seseo_ which is how the letter C (before e and i)and the letter Z are pronounced differently in America than in Spain (actually parts of Spain). Here the C, S and Z are pronounced the same. In Spain the C before e or i is pronounced like the English “th”. As an example _cocinar_. The second C is pronounced like an S here in Latin America and pronounced like a “th” in Madrid.
The letter D falls between the “th” in this and the hard D as in dog to various degrees. Sometimes closer to one and other times closer to the other.
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### Author:  [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209/66 "2006-12-24T17:08:21Z")
A 7-bit ASCII cluj has been developed for posting in IPA on the internet where actual IPA characters aren’t supported. It’s called [X-SAMPA](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-SAMPA). Until the day arrives when the world finally enjoys full Unicode implementation, we could use X-SAMPA to replace IPA in phonetics discussions here. In fact, I propose GQ should get a sticky advocating some workable IPA replacement system like X-SAMPA or [Kirshenbaum](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirshenbaum) or something. That way we could communicate phonetic information crisply and quickly with less noise to the signal.
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### Author:  [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2006, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-of-rodeo/385209/67 "2006-12-24T18:11:50Z")
In X-SAMPA:
English _rodeo_ = r\oUdioU
Spanish _rodeo_ = roDeo
Using Kirshenbaum:
English _rodeo_ = roUdioU
Spanish _rodeo_ = r\oDeo
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