# Pronunciation Pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 16, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270 "2004-04-16T00:55:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/1 "2004-04-16T00:55:49Z")
What the hell is with all this people who have started pronouncing homage “ome-aage”? Stop it. And why does everyone on this side of the pond think you order a madras by saying “maddress”? It’s fucking “muh-draas”, like the city. Yes, it’s a city. Go look it up. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/2 "2004-04-16T01:30:13Z")
You obviously meant to start this thread in **The Pit**. I’ll move it for you. **Cajun Man** for the SDMB ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/3 "2004-04-16T01:33:27Z")
A rant in an entirely opposite direction: Can we stop pretending that people who say “nukular” are stupid? It’s called an accent. Get over it, all ready. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/4 "2004-04-16T01:36:53Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > A rant in an entirely opposite direction: Can we stop pretending that people who say “nukular” are stupid? It’s called an accent. Get over it, all ready. No it isn’t. Reversing the phonetic order of a word is hardly a product of one’s accent. It’s a product of one’s education, sure, but even here in the South _most_ people pronounce the word correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/5 "2004-04-16T01:40:40Z")
> [@Really Not All That Bright](#): > > here in the South Oviedo, Florida is not the South. When come back, bring grits. ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/6 "2004-04-16T01:42:32Z")
**Miller** , if it’s an accent, what kind of accent is it? I’ve heard it mispronounced in a thick New York accent and in a broad Texan drawl (ahem), and I know people born in each of those states who pronounce it correctly. I’ve heard people from Boston say “NU-kyuh-lah”. Surely this is not the same accent as our President, who says “NEW-kyoo-ler.” ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/7 "2004-04-16T01:48:00Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > A rant in an entirely opposite direction: Can we stop pretending that people who say “nukular” are stupid? It’s called an accent. Get over it, all ready. It’s not “an accent”. It’s a mispronunciation. And the one guy I can think of who says “nukular” is of industrial-strength stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/8 "2004-04-16T01:53:07Z")
**Bruce\_** : There _are_ pockets of the South even in Central Florida. This isn’t really one of them, but it’s pretty close to a number of them. Anyway, we’re off topic. I’m lowjacking (the opposite of hijack?) this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/9 "2004-04-16T02:27:37Z")
You’d love it here in “Scran Un”. We talk [coalspeak](http://www.coalregion.com/). I thought it was “MAH dris” myself… ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Bruce\_Daddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Daddy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/10 "2004-04-16T02:32:37Z")
> [@Really Not All That Bright](#): > > **Bruce\_** : There _are_ pockets of the South even in Central Florida. This isn’t really one of them, but it’s pretty close to a number of them. > > Anyway, we’re off topic. I’m lowjacking (the opposite of hijack?) this thread. Whatever, yankee. I think you’re angry just because your [poll](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=245896) numbers are down. Maybe if you got a more comfortable muh-traas for your bed you wouldn’t be so angry all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/11 "2004-04-16T02:38:37Z")
> [@Bruce\_Daddy](#): > > Whatever, yankee. I think you’re angry just because your [poll](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=245896) numbers are down. Maybe if you got a more comfortable muh-traas for your bed you wouldn’t be so angry all the time. Bastard :mad: So much for your something-about-NASCAR-dads position. Like the Bushes, I’m a firm believer in the power of nepotism, but I don’t have any kids… I suppose the dog can do it. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/12 "2004-04-16T02:58:39Z")
[Hijack] > [@Casey1505](#): > > You’d love it here in “Scran Un”. We talk [coalspeak](http://www.coalregion.com/). Crick! Bleenies! Daresn’t! Are we related? We talk like this in the Lehigh Valley (“the area formerly known as the Slate Belt”) where I grew up, too. [/Hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/13 "2004-04-16T02:58:52Z")
And what’s up with all the mispronouncing Nevada?? It’s not Ne-vah-da…It’s Ne-va-da. Remember that. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/14 "2004-04-16T03:31:49Z")
Okay, I was wrong about the accent thing. I still say how someone pronounces “nuclear” is not a valid indicator of intelligence. > [@Reeder](#): > > And what’s up with all the mispronouncing Nevada?? > > It’s not Ne-vah-da…It’s Ne-va-da. > > Remember that. I’d pronounce both of those the same way. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/15 "2004-04-16T03:39:17Z")
Dude, ranting over how people pronounce “madras?” I had no friggin’ clue what that was. In fact, I looked it up on [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com), and I’m still not really sure. I might as well rant about how people pronounce the Chinese “q” – one hint, “qiao” is not pronounced “kee-yao.” ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/16 "2004-04-16T03:44:33Z")
Christ, not to mention that the OP started off complaining about “hommage.” What circles do you fly in, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Atticus\_Finch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Atticus\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atticus_Finch)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/17 "2004-04-16T04:06:46Z")
**Really Not All That Bright** , how can you be outraged at these two things simultaneously? You’re pitting some people as pretentious pricks for sticking closely to the original foreign pronunciation (in the case of homage), and some people as ignorant and cultureless for failing to follow the original foreign pronunciation (Madras). ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/18 "2004-04-16T05:04:58Z")
Learn from my Fox Paw: Omnipotent is not pronounced Omni-po-tant. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/19 "2004-04-16T05:26:58Z")
You mean it’s not “MAH-dras”? And what’s wrong with “o-MAAJ” (or “ome-aage” as you put it)? This is a lame rant. ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270/20 "2004-04-16T05:39:09Z")
I agree with the person who said the OP is a stupid dink. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pronunciation-pitting/240270.md?page=2)