# Proof: Pollsters and Media Big Liars for Hillary **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128 "2016-11-09T04:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/21 "2016-11-09T06:49:48Z")
There goes my health insurance and my retirement fund. The market futures are dropping like a stone. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/22 "2016-11-09T06:51:04Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Right over a fucking cliff. It looks like the US just elected a [ol] [li]bigot[/li][li]thief[/li][li]cheat[/li][li]compulsive liar[/li][li]groper[/li][/ol] Congrats. About those jobs you think are coming back, THIS was the guy who buys and uses Chinese steel. This is the guy who hires illegals whenever he can, and/or simply doesn’t pay them after the work is done. You ain’t getting shit from him. Right now, I bet the Klan and the Neo Nazis are partying up a fucking storm. Oh yeah, Putin is probably partying too, as Trump is his bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/23 "2016-11-09T06:52:11Z")
> [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](#): > > The election results are proving what a bullcrap bunch of liars we have in the mainstream media and the pollsters were indeed sampling 75% democrats all along. > > Eat my feces you progressive losers. The Silent Majority is speaking. The Silent Majority essentially just made Saul Goodman the most powerful man in human history out of spite. Good job, you stupid cunts. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/24 "2016-11-09T07:00:54Z")
what are they gonna do when trump dosent bring back coal mines and such ? or Appalachia is still barely above starving and living on handouts the do called wall dosent get built and the senate and house do what they want and just use him as a rubber stamp… ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/25 "2016-11-09T07:02:09Z")
It looks to me like the gutting of the Voting Rights act might have had a bit to do with it, too. Closing 868 polling places, mostly in majority minority areas, and cutting down the number of early voting days appears to have had a huge effect. A lot of people may have told the pollsters who they were voting for but were not willing to stand in line for four hours to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/26 "2016-11-09T07:04:24Z")
> [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](#): > > You say potato I say potato… If you can’t see how what I said is literally the exact opposite of the claim you made, then I really don’t know how to help you, unless you’re accusing the media of rigging it for Trump and just not speaking clearly. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/27 "2016-11-09T07:06:09Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > what are they gonna do when trump dosent bring back coal mines and such ? or Appalachia is still barely above starving and living on handouts > > the do called wall dosent get built and the senate and house do what they want and just use him as a rubber stamp… They’ll just have to starve. _“Losers. Bums. Scum. Can’t hold a job. They get sick. Just should die. Losers. Losers don’t deserve handouts.”_ Expect a lot of that. Get used to it. ---
**Author:** ![Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einstein_was_a_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/28 "2016-11-09T07:07:29Z")
> [@Debillw3](#): > > If you can’t see how what I said is literally the exact opposite of the claim you made, then I really don’t know how to help you, unless you’re accusing the media of rigging it for Trump and just not speaking clearly. You are overthinking things. ---
**Author:** ![Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einstein_was_a_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/29 "2016-11-09T07:19:48Z")
Let the SJW meltdowns begin… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/30 "2016-11-09T07:21:56Z")
Let’s just see what happens next, now that you just elected a fucking psychopath. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/31 "2016-11-09T07:29:15Z")
> [@Debillw3](#): > > unless you’re accusing the media of rigging it for Trump and just not speaking clearly. Which is way more accurate than the OP’s moronic claim. If the media weren’t too busy chasing the illusion of balance and objectivity to _actually_ be objective, Trump wouldn’t have gotten nominated. I’m watching the CBC coverage, and it’s being refreshingly honest about the psychopath who is very likely elected. But, since ‘he said/she said’ looks more balanced than ‘this man is a clearly deranged psychopath’ (despite the latter being true), they gave the Republicans false equivalences and ridiculously absurd slanders airtime, and now, the whole fucking world is going to pay the price. But they weren’t rigging it in his favour…they weren’t doing anything except selling ads by giving even the most ludicrous lies the time of day. ---
**Author:** ![Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einstein_was_a_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/32 "2016-11-09T07:29:54Z")
Oh, and the mod who moved this out of elections section, butthurt much? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/33 "2016-11-09T07:31:15Z")
> [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](#): > > You are overthinking things. Which is Republican-speak for ‘thinking’. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/34 "2016-11-09T07:36:08Z")
> [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](#): > > Oh, and the mod who moved this out of elections section, butthurt much? Oh, that strategy will end well. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/35 "2016-11-09T07:37:32Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > I think that the bubble has been popped. Next election will have to be run less on everybody who disagrees with me is racist or deplorable. Doubt it. After all, Trump is still running, and Trump is still a deplorable racist misogynist bigot. You voted for that. You and half the rest of the country looked at this man, this man who clearly is fundamentally unsuitable for the job and utterly opposed to what America is supposed to value, and thought, “Yep, I’ll vote for that”. That hasn’t changed. What else is there to be said? What could possibly convince you when all the existing evidence hasn’t? The only solace I can glean from this is the thought that you are so retarded that you’ll eventually make for a darwin award, and the vain hope that you’ll do it sooner rather than later. Maybe you can go die in a tire fire _before_ you decide to throw America further into the shitpit in the next election? ---
**Author:** ![Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einstein_was_a_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/36 "2016-11-09T07:41:20Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Doubt it. After all, Trump is still running, and Trump is still a deplorable racist misogynist bigot. You voted for that. You and half the rest of the country looked at this man, this man who clearly is fundamentally unsuitable for the job and utterly opposed to what America is supposed to value, and thought, “Yep, I’ll vote for that”. That hasn’t changed. What else is there to be said? What could possibly convince you when all the existing evidence hasn’t? The only solace I can glean from this is the thought that you are so retarded that you’ll eventually make for a darwin award, and the vain hope that you’ll do it sooner rather than later. Maybe you can go die in a tire fire _before_ you decide to throw America further into the shitpit in the next election? Better than electing a shriveled up lying corrupt criminal cunt. So nice to see you SJWs meltdown with such butthurt. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/37 "2016-11-09T07:44:39Z")
> [@TheStake](#): > > I think that the bubble has been popped. Next election will have to be run less on everybody who disagrees with me is racist or deplorable. The problem is how do you do this without a race to the bottom? Xenophobia works real good, as this election and various other rather nasty historical precedents show. Trump’s anti-moslem, anti-mexican stance gained him a lot of votes. If one’s opponent is exploiting xenophobia and it’s working, what do you do? 1/ publically deplore xenophobia (and lose an election, as HRC has just done?) 2/ say nothing, lose votes with those who are going to be the victims of xenophobia if your opponent wins, and hope your other policies will work to win the election? 3/ join in the xenophobia and conduct a policy auction in which you and your opponent try to out-xenophobe one another? The last one leads to down a very “interesting” rabbithole, to put it mildly. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/38 "2016-11-09T07:49:13Z")
> [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](#): > > Better than electing a shriveled up lying corrupt criminal cunt. > … You think he isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/39 "2016-11-09T07:51:55Z")
The election is rigged! It’s rigged! Trump said so, it must be true! Rigged! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128/40 "2016-11-09T07:53:20Z")
> [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](#): > > Oh, and the mod who moved this out of elections section, butthurt much? The mod probably just thought about it and knew where this was headed. So… We’re gonna build a wall to keep the raping murdering Mexicans out. We’re gonna build a database to watch everyone - especially Muslims. Then we’re gonna ban Muslims. And probably deport them. Then with Pence’s help, we’re gonna roll back Roe vs Wade. We can bring in compulsory creationist or intelligent design indoctrination to replace all those nasty science classes too. We’ll kill universal health care. Only losers and dead beats get sick. Let’s gut Medicare and unemployment insurance to, because losers. We’ll dump NATO - because we don’t want to displease Putin. All the cool kids suck up to autocratic tyrants now, it’s “a thing”. Then we’ll crush blacks because, well, just because. We’ll get those damn Jews too - that whole “global money power structure” nonsense was all from the A. Hitler playbook. And the new Prez will grab any woman he wants. Right by the pussy. And maybe try to sue her if she complains? Forget freedom of the press. Just make up new rules because they don’t kiss his fat orange ass quite enough. Then we’ll insult everyone who ever put on a uniform for this country. Yeah, you support a real class act there. You morons didn’t vote for his values, he doesn’t HAVE any. You don’t support his positions, he doesn’t have any. You just wanted to go and blow shit up. You were right on one thing, the media DID fuck up. They let the fat orange bastard slide on every lie he uttered. They repeated the lies as if they were true. They gave him slow easy softball questions. They gave him free air, so he didn’t have to spend any campaign money. They kissed his ass and never challenged him on anything. They were his fucking stooges. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-pollsters-and-media-big-liars-for-hillary/771128.md?page=3)