# Proof that John = Cyberian

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 6, 2000, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761 "2000-03-06T05:27:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/41 "2000-03-06T16:55:00Z")

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And you know what? He’s not even a little bit embarrassed. The man has no shame.

Personally, I think he’s a mental case.

Say, why isn’t CandySomething here to defend poor Cyb?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/42 "2000-03-06T16:57:00Z")

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Candy isn’t allowed to post while Cyb is at work.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/43 "2000-03-06T16:58:00Z")

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For those that are wondering who this putz is, go to Opal’s Teeming Millions page for a rundown on the King of Trolls, AKA Cyberian54.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/44 "2000-03-06T17:20:00Z")

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Now, Wally, even without the obvious point that labeling him King of Trolls is an insult to trolls everywhere, I would not characterize John as a troll.

Rather than someone who will say _anything_ to get a rise or a reaction on an MB or NG, John actually believes 99.9% of the drek that he posts. (More’s the pity.)

I think he shares with trolls a need to be validated (note how he starts lots of threads calling for people to agree with him and rarely actually reads (if he can) any opposing viewpoints), but I don’t think he posts just any old thing simply for its value in producing a reaction.

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Tom~

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/45 "2000-03-06T17:21:00Z")

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Just wondering if there was a thread or a set of threads that would give a quick run-down on John John’s (and/or sock puppets) activites that have exposed him for who he really is.

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Voted Rookie of the Year in MPSIMs and the Pit, along with Best One-liners.  
And I don’t plan on keeping this as my sig for long, just until the winning buzz wears off.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/46 "2000-03-06T17:33:00Z")

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Try this thread called [6 billion](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000474.html) for some classic examples of his hit and run posting style.

And here’s a fantastic quote from a thread on the [Mentally Ill aka Homeless](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000683.html)

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> Mark Serlin, that was the most informed and logical post I’ve read on these boards. Your knowledge, experience and compassion have helped form your opinion, which I heartly agree with. Who could fault the logic of your informed position?
> 
> Thank you for your post.

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**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/47 "2000-03-07T06:02:00Z")

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UncleBeer: You don’t think he’s really Mark Serlin as well, do you?

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/48 "2000-03-07T06:18:00Z")

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I hadn’t even considered that before, TomH. But no, I don’t. The Serlin personalities were evil, bigotted, hate-filled creatures not even worthy of my scorn. John John may be annoying at times, but I don’t think he’s a bigot by any stretch of the imagination.

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**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/49 "2000-03-07T06:41:00Z")

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Good point. It’s just that the only other people with whom he agrees, or who agree with him, tend to be his sock puppets.

There’s also the fact that Mark Serlin had a rather more polished prose style.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2000, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/50 "2000-03-07T06:45:00Z")

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UncleBeer, then it’s obvious you missed the infamous Khazar discussion a couple years ago on AOL, when John repeatedly posted things that had a decidedly anti-Semitic tone. He made fun of kashrut, and basically said that anyone who keeps kosher in the 10th century is an anachronistic idiot (guess we should all go with the flow and convert to Christianity, right?). He consistantly quoted web pages that espoused bigoted thoughts, and when knocked for repeating these things, he would reply: “I’m not anti-Semitic, my wife is half-Jewish!” Great. _Kol haKavod._

## I also find his anti-English remarks to be not only insulting but patently ridiculous. His over-the-top Irish nationalism is completely absurd.

~Harborina

“Don’t Do It.”

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/51 "2000-03-06T19:03:00Z")

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Did I say 10th century? That was, of course, a typo. I meant 20th. And when he said it, it _was_ the 20th century.

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~Harborina

“Don’t Do It.”

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**Author:** ![LilethSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LilethSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilethSC)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/52 "2000-03-06T19:26:00Z")

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Gee, Opal, I had that better picture you could have used…

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/53 "2000-03-06T19:30:00Z")

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I knew it was around somewhere . . .

Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to submit Exhibit C for the Prosecution.

This is just adding gasoline to the flames, I suppose, but back in January, **MikeyLikesIT** posted a hypothetical situation in which a mom was total ho-bag and dad was a sack, and wondered what to do with the kids: [http://204.95.48.199/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000975-2.html](http://204.95.48.199/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000975-2.html)

**JohnJohn** suggested:

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> The wife goes to jail for fraud, after a public flogging. She is made to wear a big A on her dress. The other guy pays the husband back the money, with interest. The husband has his head examined. The children are given a choice of what they want and where they want to go.

(Just FTR, this was a quite reasonable response IMO, and certainly NOT indicative of a troll.)

I said:

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> Cyb, they’re two and three years old. Do you thnk they can make a choice? Hell, most three year-olds can’t decide if they want chocolate or vanilla (most adults, too, FTM).

**JohnJohn** replied:

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> Andros
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> {my post snipped}
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> I’m just playing along with the notion that if they were old enough to say who was their DAD, and who was a babysitter, they must also be verbal enough to state a preference for whom they would want to live with.

Again, a good response, and an intelligent one.  
_But he responded to me when I called him “Cyb.”_ With no other comment.

Until people started calling him on it and using his past life against him, it seems he accepted it as a matter of course.

Cha-ching.

-andros-

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/54 "2000-03-06T19:58:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by TomH:  
> **Maybe he posts drunk or something?**

Not that there’s anything _wrong_ with that.

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**Coldfire**  
_Voted **Poster Most Likely To Post Drunk** _

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/55 "2000-03-06T20:13:00Z")

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> John John may be annoying at times, but I don’t think he’s a bigot by any stretch of the imagination.

Unclebeer sweety, you know I love you and everything but you couldn’t be more wrong with this statement.

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You turn me on. But maybe it’s because I just spent 20 years in the jungle, getting it on with anything I could attract with a piece of fruit.

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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/56 "2000-03-06T20:34:00Z")

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Am I the only person who thinks that, based on the first pic in this thread, John John is George Steinbrenner?

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/57 "2000-03-06T20:48:00Z")

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Kyla, Diane, after reading your posts and acknowledging your longer experiencew with John John, I will retract my statement about his prejudices. I apologize for my ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/58 "2000-03-06T22:51:00Z")

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Now I can’t tell for sure from the pictures provided, but it seems that John John/Cyberian(etc) has an awfully large ass…

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/59 "2000-03-06T23:41:00Z")

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For the sake of the memory deficient posters, can we all just use ONE username?

(whispering) He’s not Michael Masterson, is he?

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**Author:** ![Sandycane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Sandycane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandycane)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2000, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/60 "2000-03-06T23:45:00Z")

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Wow, you are awesome Opalcat. Not! John was another poster? Wow, that rocks my world. You know what I think? I think most of you are too small-minded to know what you think. If you have a problem with this man, I guess you have a right to your opinion.

But as far as the thread he started about Hillary! Brontosaurus Butt, it all stands. She has a HUGE arse and no qualifications for the position she is seeking! So there!

Foofs hair and stomps out…

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