# Proof that John = Cyberian

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 6, 2000, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761 "2000-03-06T05:27:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/121 "2000-03-08T23:39:00Z")

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Notice I said, “just once.”

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/122 "2000-03-08T23:42:00Z")

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John John,

To this point in my short SDMB existence, I have had no beef with you. Granted, I don’t go over to GD too often. The only posting of yours that is even memorable to me is the Hillary/Fatass thread. Your childish obsession with her behind grew tiresome rather quickly, BTW. But I never held that against you.

In this thread alone, your selective responses (Wally’s question…will you ever get to it?) your fixation on attacking StoryTyler and Tom, and your all around weasely demeanor leave me with the conclusion that you are a Grade-A jackass.

You are hereby publicly requested to cease and desist from acting like a fucking moron.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/123 "2000-03-08T23:45:00Z")

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Mouthbreather, I’m going to break my own rule about using smileys in the pit.

Here’s what I think of your post: 🙂

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**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/124 "2000-03-08T23:53:00Z")

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John John

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> posted 12-27-1999 08:43 AM  
> The questions had been answered? Really? Not by YOU they weren’t! YOU still have not answered all the questions in this thread. You have ignored most of the posters, myself included, that have ask you hard question about YOUR topic, THE ONE YOU RAISED, but you did not answer. You only answer question you want? You call that a discussion? That doesn’t seem like a discussion to me.

Asking someone to answer a question about the TOPIC THEY RAISED AS A THREAD is quite different than demanding A PERSON ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PRIVATE LIFE, OR to have to FEND OFF UNTRUE ATTACKS.

This is a sterling example of how they have distorted things. See how they slant things? I never asked DavidB to tell me who he was but to answer questions about HIS THREAD TOPIC, THE ONE HE STARTED, which he did not.

## Nice try.

Pas grande chose.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/125 "2000-03-08T23:58:00Z")

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Okay.

Cyberian, are you and John John the same person?

Just this once, can you give us a straight forward answer to that question?

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**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2000, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/126 "2000-03-08T23:58:00Z")

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> Here’s what I think of your post 🙂

I don’t have a problem witht that. 😃

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/127 "2000-03-09T00:00:00Z")

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WallyM7 et al.,

Accept the fact that J-J will not give you the satisfaction of a direct answer. It is more enjoyable for him to watch y’all twist with consternation over his evasiveness.

It is his typical passive-aggressive approach. This, and his hard-headedness in the face of fact and reason, can be infuriating (just see the 6 billion thread), until you realize that the best approach is to either ignore him or use rational thought against his irrationality until you get tired. Then, just fade away and let him continue to endlessly post to himself.

He seems to derive great enjoyment in baiting people. Don’t give him the satisfaction of getting to you.

That’s my advice, anyway.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/128 "2000-03-09T00:02:00Z")

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I. too, would like to see **John John** answer the question: Were you **Cyberian**?

And if you want to see photos of myself and other Dopers from the L. A. area, click [here.](http://home.earthlink.net/~lrconaway/LADopersShindig.htm) I’m in the very first picture. I’m the guy on the left.

(Please note that these are large photos and can take a LONG time to download. It’s not my page, it belongs to **Ruffian**. AFAIK, this is the only picture of me online.)

AFAIK, none of the people in these photos has ever posted under another name.

Can you say the same, **John John**?

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When all else fails, ask Cecil.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/129 "2000-03-09T00:02:00Z")

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Seems not, Wally.

It is my opinion, and purely my opinion, with no generalization implied, and no evidence to be assumed in any way, that JJ is a

**Putz.**

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**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/130 "2000-03-09T00:06:00Z")

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mouthbreather

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> your fixation on attacking StoryTyler and Tom,

Is this not a selective version of actual events? Reread this thread and then honestly tell me who threw the first stone? Look at ToiletTyler’s first post to me and then look at tom’s continuious harping on me? It really doesn’t matter if you’re honest or not, the record is there for all fair people to see, which you don’t seem to be.

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Pas grande chose.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/131 "2000-03-09T00:09:00Z")

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I don’t have all night to document all your offenses, John, however, this one is easy:  
**tomndebb** :

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> Your frequent personal slams against women are offensive.

**John John** :

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> produce evidence that I slammed ALL women.

(I never said “all” o ye of little reading comprehension.) However:

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> Now, talk about asses, NO ONE COULD BEAT BUTCHER THATCHER’s KERNSEY RUMP. Moo

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> Ruda Duda is the Queen Mothers lesbian lover

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> AND HILLARY HAS A BIG SHITTER!~

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Tom~

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/132 "2000-03-09T00:12:00Z")

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You will also note, John, that the only time I have “thrown a stone” is in response to your denial of your identity as Cyberian54. I said long ago (and have repeated in other contexts) that if you will stop the denial, I will not call you on your denials.  
Easy enough.

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Tom~

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/133 "2000-03-09T00:15:00Z")

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> Look at ToiletTyler’s first post to me and then look at tom’s continuious harping on me?

Perhaps _in this thread_ you were attacked first, but that seems to be stemming from a greater issue, that being you posting under multiple names and lying about it.

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> Reread this thread and then honestly tell me who threw the first stone?

Your actions seemingly cast the first stone.

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> the record is there for all fair people to see, which you don’t seem to be.

I’m sure I’ll sleep just fine tonight knowing that you don’t think I’m fair.

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**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/134 "2000-03-09T00:21:00Z")

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Drive

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> Accept the fact that J-J will not give you the satisfaction of a direct answer. It is more enjoyable for him to watch y’all twist with consternation over his evasiveness

I am not REQUIRED to answer any question that I deem an invasion of my privacy, or that is an arrogant attempt to provoke me, which all these questions are. I have been accused of being many people and it is simply not true.

I have told you all already, one impertinant question begets a dozen more. Not going to play that game.

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Pas grande chose.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/135 "2000-03-09T00:22:00Z")

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Hear that, Wally? You’re impertinent!

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/136 "2000-03-09T00:31:00Z")

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How about we make a fresh start, John John?

Let’s put our differences aside for the moment and forget the name calling that both sides are guilty of. Fair enough?

In the spirit of at least a temporary cessation of hostilities, I wonder if you would be kind enough to enlighten us as to whether you and Cyberian are the same person.

No need to eloborate. A simple yes or no will suffice.

Surely, this query is too small to place a burden on your sensibilities?

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**Author:** ![Valerieblaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Valerieblaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valerieblaise)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/137 "2000-03-09T00:34:00Z")

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Yeah, Wally, you whippersnapper! If you keep giving John lip, he’s going to whap you with his cane!

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Everybody knows that Steve McGarrett only takes orders from the governor and God - and occassionally even they have trouble.

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**Author:** ![aenea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@aenea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aenea)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/138 "2000-03-09T00:35:00Z")

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Or how about this one JJ. Could you please tell us in the spirit of understanding, why you have felt the need to change your user name from Cyberian?

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/139 "2000-03-09T00:36:00Z")

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Impertinent?

Saints preserve us!

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**Author:** ![Ruffian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@Ruffian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruffian)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/140 "2000-03-09T00:59:00Z")

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Hey, neat, a link to the LA Shindig page. Neato, jab1. 🙂 FWIW, the pix have been compressed (so they are not as clear) and should only take a minute or two to download, rather than the 10 min. the original page took! :o

My only comment in this thread is the same comment I had back in the Cyberian Wars on AOL: Why do you guys waste your time with this guy?

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