# Proof that John = Cyberian **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 6, 2000, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761 "2000-03-06T05:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/161 "2000-03-09T14:57:00Z")
John John, Read it again. You said that a conditional truce would be a surrender. I said that a truce _could_ be conditional. You said that a truce _needn’t_ be conditional. Yes? And? Your point is? ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/162 "2000-03-09T17:49:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by John John: > Posted as WHO, WHEN? Your PROOF is what? I NEVER posted to these boards as anyone but John John. What are the sn you are accusing me of posting under here? _sigh_ Did you post on the _AOL_ boards as Cyberian54 ? This is the only question being asked. Your stupid squirming around and refusing to answer just shows what an idiot and a coward you are. * * * – From an actual catalog: “Disco balls create an enchanting, dazzling effect of light shafts, adding movement and glamour to any occasion” _the Abrams’ bris was certainly memorable_ O p a l C a t [www.opalcat.com](http://www.opalcat.com) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/163 "2000-03-10T06:08:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by John John: > \*\*What??? Monty, are you accusing me of being Captain Ed too? Holy smokes! You people are off the charts. This is just further proof that you are just floundering and making blanket accusations. You all lose more credibilty with each lame accusation. > > This IS getting funnier. Get real!!! > > \*\* No, you fucking illiterate and ignorant moron! I was merely providing one other example of an adult who is damn near as bigoted as your dumb ass. ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/164 "2000-03-09T19:55:00Z")
Well, if you want proof that Cyberian has posted her under another name, this is one of the first threads posted to the Pit: [http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000005.html](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000005.html) Here, JOHN admits to being Cyberian. Now if JOHN is posting as John John, does that mean he has more than one user name? Tsk tsk. * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy [The Kat House](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/home.htm) [Join the FSH Muscular Dystrophy Webring](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/fshwebring.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/165 "2000-03-09T19:58:00Z")
Well, if you want proof that Cyberian has posted her under another name, this is one of the first threads posted to the Pit: [http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000005.html](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000005.html) Here, JOHN admits to being Cyberian. Now if JOHN is posting as John John, does that mean he has more than one user name? Tsk tsk. * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy [The Kat House](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/home.htm) [Join the FSH Muscular Dystrophy Webring](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/fshwebring.htm) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/166 "2000-03-09T20:32:00Z")
C’mon. While there is no question that **JOHN** is _now_ **John John** (and both were created by the same creature that created Cyberian54 and Optamissed on AOL), it seems pretty clear that John retired the **JOHN** sig some time last summer (after a mere 26 posts), returning as **John John** at the end of September–long before the 1-ID-per-user rule. I won’t even speculate that he did it deliberately to distance himself from his Cyberian statement (although he could have), figuring that it may have had to do with simply changing ISP’s or some other process. (I’m not sure that he is bright enough to have remembered his Cyberian statement all the way from March to September.) ## I object to John denying that he is Cyberian, but I suspect he can get himself in enough trouble without us making even his innocuous changes into a conspiracy. Tom~ ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/167 "2000-03-10T21:50:00Z")
test post. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/168 "2000-03-10T22:16:00Z")
John, how old are you? Someone said you look like their grandfather, but you don’t look like you’re THAT old to me. Course, my grandparents are all in their 80s. * * * – From an actual catalog: “Disco balls create an enchanting, dazzling effect of light shafts, adding movement and glamour to any occasion” _the Abrams’ bris was certainly memorable_ O p a l C a t [www.opalcat.com](http://www.opalcat.com) ---
**Author:** ![Sandycane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Sandycane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandycane)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/169 "2000-03-10T22:34:00Z")
John, thank you for your nice e-mail. Please feel free to post on my message. It’s about how I feel everyday when I go to school. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/170 "2000-03-09T23:26:00Z")
Two things are crystal clear. 1. John John = Cyberian. 2. John John isn’t going to admit it, no matter how much evidence you bring forth. “Sexual relations” doesn’t include oral sex and “Are you Cyberian” doesn’t equal “Were you even known as Cyberian on any other message board forum.” Got it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/171 "2000-03-09T23:37:00Z")
Gr8 > [@](#): > > Well, if you want proof that Cyberian has posted her under another name, this is one of the first threads posted to the Pit: [http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000005.html](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000005.html) > Here, JOHN admits to being Cyberian. Now if JOHN is posting as John John, does that mean he has more than one user name? Tsk tsk. Here’s a sn I’ve never seen before on these boards and I’m to believe that this person has a Cyberian hangup too? We have never exchanged hello’s but all of a sudden GR8 is an authority on who I am? Yeah, you are real smart. NOT! There is one BIG problem with this John you have linked to. It has an address of Cyberian154@yahoo and I’m Johnsbury@aol. All we do is share the same first name. Do you think John is such a peculiar name? Another sterling example of stretching things to fit your obsession. Too funny. You guys get lamer and lamer with each invented sn you put up on the board. You just got awarded the SD = Sterling Duhhhhhhhhhhhh * * * Pas grande chose. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/172 "2000-03-09T23:47:00Z")
Sandy > [@](#): > > John, thank you for your nice e-mail. Please feel free to post on my message. It’s about how I feel everyday when I go to school. Please forgive my density, but what does that mean, “post on my message”? I’d like to ask you guys to let up on SandyCane. She is as she describes, an 18 yr olf HS student and does not deserve any of your wrath. Save that for people who can fight back - me! She is entitled to her opinion and just because she and I agree on Hillary Rhino Ass should not, in any way, make her the object of scorn. Try to be adults. * * * Pas grande chose. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/173 "2000-03-09T23:52:00Z")
MontyWillyNilly > [@](#): > > No, you fucking illiterate and ignorant moron! I was merely providing one other example of an adult who is damn near as bigoted as your dumb ass. You dwerb! Are we supposed to be mind readers? You never clarified that, Smerldreek. ## Doing a little back peddling after someone assured you in email we were not the same person? You Office pinkie! Pas grande chose. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2000, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/174 "2000-03-09T23:58:00Z")
Katherine > [@](#): > > John, how old are you? Someone said you look like their grandfather, but you don’t look like you’re THAT old to me. Course, my grandparents are all in their 80s. How old are you? * * * Pas grande chose. ---
**Author:** ![Dirty\_Devil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Dirty\_Devil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dirty_Devil)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/175 "2000-03-10T00:29:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by John John: > **We have never exchanged hello’s but all of a sudden GR8 is an authority on who I am?** John John, just curious. Have you ever exchanged “hello’s” with Hillary “what-ever-size-her-butt-may-be-today (yaaaaawn)” Clinton? Do you know her personally? Do you know her in _any_ way? No? Well, _you_ certainly seem to be a master authority on _her_. You really only know of her by what she has said in public and what has been told to you by other people (ie. the media). Kinda’ like how everybody around here knows who you are only by what you’ve posted and what other posters have told them. Gr8Kat has over a thousand posts and has been on the SDMB for almost a year. Sounds like someone who knows what’s going on around here. So what if you don’t recognize Gr8. That doesn’t mean that she is ignorant of you and your past. And all she did was draw a _possible_ link to you and this “JOHN” person, who just happens to have a VERY similar style of writing and responding to posts as you do. Why don’t you just tell us once and for all if you really were Cyberian, and all this little stuff would just go away. If you really weren’t Cyberian, then you weren’t JOHN, either, and Gr8Kat owes you an apology (or something). Let us know, please. Were just _dying_ here over all this suspense. ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/176 "2000-03-10T00:39:00Z")
> [@](#): > > I object to John denying that he is Cyberian, but I suspect he can get himself in enough trouble without us making even his innocuous changes into a conspiracy. No conspiracy intended, I’m not suggesting he currently has more than one screen name (ok, so I kinda did, with the “tsk tsk” part, and I admit that was dumb). It just struck me that he won’t cop to being Cyberian, he just asserts he’s never posted to the UBB SDMB under any name other than John John. But JOHN openly admitted to being Cyberian. So if John John = Cyberian, and JOHN = Cyberian, than this statement: > [@](#): > > I HAVE NEVER POSTED TO THESE BOARD UNDER ANY OTHER SCREEN NAME. is a lie. No, I’m no Cyberian expert, I didn’t get here until after the UBB SDMB was up, but I’ve found this thread rather amusing and wanted to throw in my 2 cents. (Oh, and like it’s _soooooooo_ hard to get multiple e-mail addresses :rolleyes 🙂 * * * “I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy [The Kat House](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/home.htm) [Join the FSH Muscular Dystrophy Webring](http://members.aol.com/gr8kat1/KatGen/fshwebring.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/177 "2000-03-10T00:40:00Z")
:roll eyes: :roll eyes: ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/178 "2000-03-10T01:14:00Z")
Gr8kat, where is the nexus between John Cyberian and John John? Did I miss something? Please, you are sounding soooooo silly. I’ve noticed a similar posting style between you and Wally. _ **Shaking head** _\*\* * * * Pas grande chose. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/179 "2000-03-10T01:23:00Z")
DirtDevil > [@](#): > > John John, just curious. Have you ever exchanged “hello’s” with Hillary “what-ever-size-her-butt-may-be-today (yaaaaawn)” Clinton? Do you know her personally? Met her at a fund raiser in NY.[someone paid my ticket] I also saw her in the town of Chappaqua. She has rather thick thighs and hamhock legs. * * * Pas grande chose. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761/180 "2000-03-10T01:27:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by John John: > \*\*MontyWillyNilly You dwerb! Are we supposed to be mind readers? You never clarified that, Smerldreek. > > Doing a little back peddling after someone assured you in email we were not the same person? You Office pinkie! > \*\* Couple of things which the rational will understand readily and just maybe Cyb will finally get: 1. No mind reading needed. It was quite obvious that I was addressing the following statement of Ursa Major: “I am stunned that a man of so many years can be as ignorant as he is.” That is, as I said, I was providing one example that you, Cyb, are not the only ignorant SOB older than 18. 2. What backpedalling? I never accused you of being Captain Ed. And 1. You have repeatedly shown that: a) You are a bigot, b) You are ignorant, and c) You are apparently illiterate as you have yet to evidence comprehension of a single thing posted on this message board. BTW: I love it when those who use sock puppets start using “we” instead of “I” in their irrational responses. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-john-cyberian/4761.md?page=10)