# Proof that our "souls" can be made aware of anything even after we die and proof that you have as... **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 6, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230 "2016-07-06T16:25:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![paulobrienhunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@paulobrienhunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulobrienhunter)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/1 "2016-07-06T16:25:55Z")
…much chance of suffering after committing suicide as you do if you chose to continue to live. Looking for someone to prove this to via e-mail. _Site redacted_is the information I’ll be proving to someone hopefully. E-mail me your misunderstandings/disagreements to my e-mail, _Email redacted_ and we can get started. I should reply within 24 hours if not much sooner. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/2 "2016-07-06T16:29:18Z")
Why don’t we talk about it here? What is your opinion on the subject? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/3 "2016-07-06T16:30:44Z")
If you can “prove” this via email, you can prove it in this forum. Please provide your evidence. Otherwise, you should know that spam is generally frowned upon here and could result in being shown the door. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/4 "2016-07-06T16:31:03Z")
Yeah, please give us the slightest indication that you won’t be wasting the time of anyone interested. You may be disappointed - we don’t have lots of gullible people around here. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/5 "2016-07-06T16:35:42Z")
I took a look. It’s not quite as incoherent as the Time Cube, but it’s close. Whatever ideas are in their were stated much more clearly by Aquinas. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/6 "2016-07-06T16:40:34Z")
Reported ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/7 "2016-07-06T16:41:18Z")
Just for funsies, the first two flaws I came across: Firstly, you \*assume \*the existence of “a# 1” in order to \*prove \*its existence. Hell, give me any tautology and I can literally “prove” anything. Secondly, your first premise, that “Time must be made up of indivisible parts of time,” is logically unsound, rendering all subsequent conclusions equally unsound. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/8 "2016-07-06T16:42:28Z")
I’ve removed the link and email address If you’d like to debate something please make your position clear here in your posts. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/9 "2016-07-06T18:28:43Z")
So, can you post a live streaming link and still have a soul? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/10 "2016-07-06T18:30:29Z")
Depends on whether you’re a big-legged woman. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/11 "2016-07-06T20:30:00Z")
> [@andros](#): > > . . . Secondly, your first premise, that “Time must be made up of indivisible parts of time,” is logically unsound, rendering all subsequent conclusions equally unsound. Even if time were quantized…what would that prove regarding souls? I couldn’t read the material, and don’t really want to… But I think there is a really good chance that time is quantized, and I don’t think souls exist. The concept contradicts other laws of physical reality. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/12 "2016-07-06T22:10:15Z")
The op is right - there _are_ too many paulobriens in the world and they must be culled for the good of the species. ---
**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/13 "2016-07-07T11:08:44Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > But I think there is a really good chance that time is quantized. Not all physicists think spacetime has a granular structure. Some claim only time is discrete whereas space is not. Others insist only space is discrete whereas space is not. In the absence of evidence, is there anything else but faith that would make one favor any of the hypotheses above? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/14 "2016-07-07T11:52:26Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Depends on whether you’re a big-legged woman. I been told they ain’t got one. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/15 "2016-07-07T12:09:04Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > I been told they ain’t got one. Yeah, but you don’t _know._ ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/16 "2016-07-07T12:23:07Z")
What if you’re a big legged woman AND a ginger? Is soul mathematics like multiplication, so big legged gingers do have souls? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-that-our-souls-can-be-made-aware-of-anything-even-after-we-die-and-proof-that-you-have-as/759230/17 "2016-07-07T12:26:56Z")
Enough. This thread ain’t got no…