# Proof the Climate Scientists are greedy liars **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 13, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903 "2011-07-13T18:44:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/61 "2011-07-15T02:58:18Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I dunno. NASA is getting cuts to it’s budget, right? Those cuts are rooted in politics. It is indeed difficult to subtract politics from any government business that involves spending a lot of money. Which climate-change research does not, not on the government-budget scale. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/62 "2011-07-15T04:18:54Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Now that the cat’s out of the bag… Beautifully done. Using an alternate name so the mouseover wouldn’t give the game away was a nice touch. Wasn’t it pretty? I had a feeling but wasn’t sure of the generic name. Bravo, **Ludovic**. Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/63 "2011-07-15T12:20:50Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Such bullshit. I’m an industry scientist and impartial to a fault. _Study shows “convincing evidence” of industry science impartiality, says industry scientist_ ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/64 "2011-07-15T13:09:24Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > _Study shows “convincing evidence” of industry science impartiality, says industry scientist_ You know what the great thing is? If you doubt me, you can read my papers. They’re published. The Materials and Methods sections spells out exactly how experiments were performed. You can repeat them and see if you get the same results. Ain’t science great? I mean, it beats just declaring a hypothesis to be true because it feels like it _should_ be true. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/65 "2011-07-15T13:12:44Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Nobody cares. If enough of us say a word means a thing, it means that thing. Most of us stopped caring what you think when we graduated high school, and you were no longer a source of supplemental lunch money. I really don’t think this is just a pedantic issue. It’s at the heart of why creationists get to declare that evolution is “just” a theory. The word has lost it’s original meaning, and as a result instead of showing that evolution has been tested and explains all the available data, it is relegated to “wild ass guess” because it isn’t understood that “theories” are the highest level of acclaim that science has. ---
**Author:** ![Plumbkrazy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Plumbkrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumbkrazy)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/66 "2011-07-15T13:27:57Z")
Ooooo…one guy accepting kickbacks? We should immediately disregard years of research by scientists around the world and assume that climate change, if it exists at all, is not affected by humans. Maybe we should patiently wait to hear what Jesus has to say. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/67 "2011-07-15T20:35:21Z")
> [@Plumbkrazy](#): > > Ooooo…one guy accepting kickbacks? We should immediately disregard years of research by scientists around the world and assume that climate change, if it exists at all, is not affected by humans. > > Maybe we should patiently wait to hear what Jesus has to say. Why, don’t you know? Jesus want us to accelerate the disaster so he will come sooner! [http://www.landoverbaptist.org/2008/april/conservationsin.html](http://www.landoverbaptist.org/2008/april/conservationsin.html) > [@](#): > > What Can True Christians™ Do to Help Speed Up Global Warming So Jesus Comes Back Quicker? > [@](#): > > Friends, I’m going to get a little controversial now, but someone has to speak the truth. The sissy Christians who pick and choose whatever Bible verse they like to fit their latest agenda will burn in Hell and give off just as pleasing a scent to the nostrils of the Lord as any hell bound, America hating Muslim will. It is these pansy, false Christians whose liberal ideas are polluting the spiritual truth of God’s Word. I’ll say it now, and I’ll say it again and again! If you are a True Christian™, you shouldn’t be recycling. True Christians™ shouldn’t be attending Global Warming rallies, or be celebrating Earth Day. True Christians™ understand that worrying about such things, or supporting such efforts is in direct conflict with the Word of God! Friends, we can sum up our Evangelical stand on “Conservation” by making all these fancy scientifical types understand one truth: That is if Jesus can feed five thousand people with two stinky fish and five loaves of stale bread, He can certainly turn the lights back on and make clean air by just burping! Oh, Glory! Glory! [Praise the Lard! Save us Cheesus!!!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/68 "2011-07-15T21:33:02Z")
Do I detect a faint note of sarcasm? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/69 "2011-07-15T23:24:12Z")
He shoots, he scores! ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/70 "2011-07-16T23:09:49Z")
> [@](#): > > advocacy position with respect to climate change. I wonder how one would test to see whether a person or entity has taken an “advocacy position with respect to climate change.” It seems like a tricky question to me. Seems to me the best approach is to be skeptical of all scientists and evaluate their research on the merits. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/71 "2011-07-18T02:54:18Z")
> [@L. G. Butts](#): > > It’s not that I think that the government is dishonest, it’s just that they are incompetent. cite? Ever hear of the Manhattan project? > [@](#): > > And anyway, if the research is faulty, the market can always correct the problems. Yes the market always self corrects. Like with the research funded by tobacco companies that showed no link between tobacco and lung cancer. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/72 "2011-07-18T02:56:08Z")
> [@L. G. Butts](#): > > Dude, what is your damage? Sure, the tobacco companies did some crap, but they are exception, not the rule. > > [Here](http://www.autosafety.org/FordMemo.pdf) is another example of good, honest, science done by corporations. The research in this paper is clear, honest, and free from bias. Claiming that we would not get accurate and meaningful results from corporate based research is just bullshit. Really? They are the exception? I suppose asbestos companies are the exception too? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/73 "2011-07-18T02:57:21Z")
> [@Bloodless\_Turnip](#): > > Maybe you’re considering changing to another fuel source? But really, that isn’t the point at all (as you very well know). > > The thought that scientists who must vie for research dollars won’t skew their data to better position themselves for those dollars is naive. The thought that the government is somehow pure as the driven snow and corporations (who rely on good research to make money) are all crooks out to screw and kill the very people who purchase their researched product is beyond naive. Right because THATS the argument people are presenting. Government is pure as driven snow and corporations are evil. pfft. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/74 "2011-07-18T04:02:53Z")
I know its biting sarcasm, but sometimes you don’t give me enough to decide what exactly you’re being sarcastic about. Clearly, somebody here is being very stupid, I can guess who, but not why. You may need a bit more exposition before you hit them with your zinger. ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903/75 "2011-07-18T09:01:04Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > You know what the great thing is? If you doubt me, you can read my papers. They’re published. The Materials and Methods sections spells out exactly how experiments were performed. You can repeat them and see if you get the same results. > > Ain’t science great? I mean, it beats just declaring a hypothesis to be true because it feels like it _should_ be true. What happens to the research that contradicts the company position? Especially if said research undermines a goal the company greatly desires? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proof-the-climate-scientists-are-greedy-liars/588903.md?page=3)