# Prop 8 trial update: Walker's ruling upheld **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 14, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prop-8-trial-update-walkers-ruling-upheld/585500 "2011-06-14T22:31:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 145
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prop-8-trial-update-walkers-ruling-upheld/585500/145 "2011-06-17T02:19:00Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > I find questioning a judges ruling solely because he is homosexual to be homophobic behavior. So I think it’s an appropriate description. > > Have you found something in Walkers ruling to suggest bias? Are you willing to admit he was perfectly capable of making a fair ruling on gay marriage while being gay himself? I didn’t question Walker himself. I asked if naysayers actually had any precedent for something regarding this unusual minority. Can I call you a liar for misrepresenting me on purpose? Probably not. So don’t pull that bullshit. It makes you look stupid. > [@YogSosoth](#): > > What you claim and what you actually post are 2 different things. You come off as someone who is homophobic. Maybe change your words if you don’t want to be thought of as such > > Again CP, you have some preconceived notions of what you think are innate and not innate characteristics and you are confusing them into one jumble which you call ‘class’. The word you’re looking for is ‘group’. You CAN discriminate against groups, little ‘g’, because a group is any generic collection based on some arbitrary criteria. There are groups of people that are perfectly ok to discriminate against. The government locks groups of criminals up. They give certain job groups special privileges. > > What you confusing ‘group’ with is the legal term ‘protected class’. A Protected Class, capital ‘p’ capital ‘c’, is a special kind of group designated by the government with distinct privileges, usually because they’ve been discriminated against in the past. When we say you cannot have Walker recuse himself because he’s gay, that’s because the reason would speak towards a Protected Class in which he belongs to: gays. > > When you talk about polygamy, you are talking about ‘groups’. Polygamists are not an officially recognized Protected Class, so you can discriminate against them in marriage. Whatever you think of that situation, it stems from the fact that a gay person and a polygamist are fundamentally different in how they achieve their statuses. And that difference contributes to the reason that one is a Protected Class and one is not > > You want to claim they are the same, or should be the same, based on the simple notion that both can be called ‘groups’. But you’re wrong. Just because they are both part of a group does not mean they both deserve to be a Protected Class. \*\*Polygamy is illegal and I have no real problems with that. But discriminate against gays and I have a huge problem with it. Any rational person would agree with \*\*me Sorry, I’m not allowed to say the P word. You’ll have to take your poor understanding and ethnocentric-ism/bigotry into another thread. Thanks. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prop-8-trial-update-walkers-ruling-upheld/585500)._