# Propaganda Chief Takes Helm at NPR

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 10, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009 "2019-09-10T21:13:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/21 "2019-09-11T00:28:20Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Presumably you know of some non-propaganda information source? If so, care to share it?

Yo!

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/22 "2019-09-11T00:33:27Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I don’t know much about the guy, but he doesn’t sound all that bad to me.
> 
> _“Four years ago, Lansing **was named by President Barack Obama** to be the first chief executive of the broadcasting outfit that was renamed the U.S. Agency for Global Media. Lansing has won plaudits from journalists for his rousing defense of a free press even while serving in the Trump administration, which has been notably hostile to traditional notions of the role of journalism in civic life.”_
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> [NPR's New CEO Is Veteran Media Executive John Lansing : NPR](http://npr.org/2019/09/05/758047287/npr-names-veteran-media-executive-john-lansing-as-its-new-ceo)
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> I’m not much of an NPR listener but hope it stays viable. Having an experienced and successful broadcast executive in charge is a plus.

Formatting mine.

Change Barack Obama to George W. Bush and this story wouldn’t even hit \*\*Will Farnaby’s \*\* radar.

Seriously, that’s the reason, isn’t it, **Will**?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/23 "2019-09-11T00:37:00Z")

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May the universe forgive me for this. Hey, Will; do you even know what [_propoganda_](https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5647/propaganda-game) is?

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/24 "2019-09-11T01:56:03Z")

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Hahahaahahaha, Farnaby proves he’s a dumbfuck yet again.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/25 "2019-09-11T02:26:27Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The current chief at NPR was formerly heading up propaganda operations for the US govt. If you are relying on NPR for information, it is highly suspect now if it wasn’t before.
> 
> I would think individuals in a free society would not want to be influenced by propaganda, but perhaps I’m wrong.

Would you just fucking stop and think for a minute??

Goddamn, I’m about to stop identifying as human just so I’m not in any way associated with pieces of shit like you.

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**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/26 "2019-09-11T02:44:22Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> The revolving door between oil, gas, and coal company lobbyists going into and out of the Trump administration ((Scott Pruitt, Vincent DeVito, Joe Balash) doesn’t get the OP’s hackles up enough to post, but NPR hiring a guy who once led a liberal radio station does.

Liberal? Isn’t VOA better known for RW propaganda?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/27 "2019-09-11T02:44:43Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Goddamn, I’m about to stop identifying as human just so I’m not in any way associated with pieces of shit like you.

Now hold on one second. I’ve seen no proof he is human.

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**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/28 "2019-09-11T02:45:27Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Presumably you know of some non-propaganda information source? If so, care to share it?

Wikipedia.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/29 "2019-09-11T02:50:51Z")

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Relax, **Will** ; all you need do is provide two or three examples of propaganda disseminated by NPR since they hired this guy. Smart guy like you, should take no time at all.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/30 "2019-09-11T04:27:54Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Now hold on one second. I’ve seen no proof he is human.

I’m hedging my bets.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/31 "2019-09-11T12:57:11Z")

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Never heard of the guy, but if his presence raises the hackles of one of our most devotedly idiotic villagers, I like him already.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/32 "2019-09-11T13:20:48Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The current chief at NPR was formerly heading up propaganda operations for the US govt. If you are relying on NPR for information, it is highly suspect now if it wasn’t before.

Paranoia flaring up again?..

> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> I would think individuals in a free society would not want to be influenced by propaganda, but perhaps I’m wrong.

…Perhaps it’s time to double up on the heavy duty tin foil.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/33 "2019-09-11T14:03:59Z")

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Do you actually have a problem with something VOA or Radio Free Europe broadcast while this dude was in charge?

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/34 "2019-09-11T14:15:07Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Yes NPR is banking on gullible kept liberals not perceiving the problem.

> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The current chief at NPR was formerly heading up propaganda operations for the US govt. If you are relying on NPR for information, it is highly suspect now if it wasn’t before.
> 
> I would think individuals in a free society would not want to be influenced by propaganda, but perhaps I’m wrong.

Glad to know you’re so concerned about [“propaganda” and biased news, and questionable relationships between the government and the media](https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/comprehensive-review-revolving-door-between-fox-and-trump-administration).

**Current Trump administration officials who used to work at Fox**  
[ul][li]Ben Carson, secretary of housing and urban development[/li][li]Elaine Chao, secretary of transportation[/li][li]Scott Brown, ambassador to New Zealand and Samoa[/li][li]Georgette Mosbacher, ambassador to Poland[/li][li]Richard Grenell, ambassador to Germany[/li][li]Morgan Ortagus, State Department spokesperson[/li][li]Lea Gabrielle, State Department special envoy[/li][li]Monica Crowley, Treasury Department assistant secretary for public affairs[/li][/ul]

**Former Trump administration officials who used to work at Fox**  
[ul][li]Bill Shine, White House communications director[/li][li]John Bolton, national security adviser [/li][li]Heather Nauert, acting undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs[/li][li]Anthony Scaramucci, White House communications director[/li][li]K.T. McFarland, deputy national security adviser[/li][li]Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to the president[/li][li]John McEntee, personal aide to the president[/li][li]Tony Sayegh, Treasury Department assistant secretary for public affairs[/li][li]Mercedes Schlapp, White House director of strategic communications[/li][li]Kiron Skinner, director of policy planning for the State Department[/li][/ul]  
**Current Fox employees who used to work in the Trump administration**  
[ul][li]Hope Hicks, executive vice president and chief communications officer at Fox Corporation[/li][li]Raj Shah, senior vice president at Fox Corporation[/li][li]Abigail Slater, senior vice president for policy and strategy at Fox Corporation[/li][li]Tom Homan, Fox News contributor[/li][li]Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Fox News contributor [/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/35 "2019-09-11T14:23:32Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Now hold on one second. I’ve seen no proof he is human.

You don’t grade your Turing Test on a curve? Harsh.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/36 "2019-09-11T14:48:26Z")

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Checklist:

(1) OP makes no sense. Each sentence is grammatical English, but nobody knows what’s caused the distress. _ **Check.** _

(2) OP seems to blame the “Boomers” for something, though the Boom connection is never divulged. _ **Check.** _

(3) When politely asked WTF he’s even talking about, OP makes snide remarks that shed no light, as though he’s composing koans. Or as if he’s some acclaimed puzzle designer, and solvers will pound the doors hoping to be first to solve the riddle. _ **Check.** _

(4) When OP’s bowel finally succeeds in making a movement, we learn that the VOA is news propaganda — that’s what caused the constipation. Not Fox. Not the many other private propaganda operations run by the Kleptocrats of Liberty. The problem is the truncheon-wielding VOA(\*) who have stolen OP’s money at gunpoint and used it to manufacture lies which they then force others to watch, presumably also at gunpoint. Lies far far worse than anything Fox or the Koch Brothers or the other news organizations of liberty would produce. _ **Check.** _

Checklist complete. I’ll guess this is a **Will Farnaby** thread. What do I win?

(I’m just guessing it’s VOA Mr. Farnaby is constipated about. I don’t click his links; does anyone?)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/37 "2019-09-11T15:27:32Z")

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> [@markn\_1](#):
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> In 1993, IBM hired Louis Gerstner as their CEO. He previously was the CEO of RJR Nabisco. After that, IBM started making cookies instead of computers! Remember that?
> 
> .

Hey, it was one year later that they started using what they called “cookies” in web communications.

Coincidence? I think not

> [@](#):
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> Origin of the name  
> The term “cookie” was coined by web browser programmer Lou Montulli. It was derived from the term “magic cookie”, which is a packet of data a program receives and sends back unchanged, used by Unix programmers.[6][7]
> 
> History  
> Magic cookies were already used in computing when computer programmer Lou Montulli had the idea of using them in web communications in June 1994.[8]

> **[HTTP cookie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_cookie)**
>
> HTTP cookies (also called web cookies, Internet cookies, browser cookies, or simply cookies) are small blocks of data created by a web server while a user is browsing a website and placed on the user's computer or other device by the user's web browser. Cookies are placed on the device used to access a website, and more than one cookie may be placed on a user's device during a session.
> Cookies serve useful and sometimes essential functions on the web. They enable web servers to store statefu...

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/38 "2019-09-11T16:02:43Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> Hey, it was one year later that they started using what they called “cookies” in web communications.
> 
> Coincidence? I think not

Thanks. :eek: Not many people bother to connect the dots.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/39 "2019-09-11T16:02:58Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The current chief at NPR was formerly heading up propaganda operations for the US govt. If you are relying on NPR for information, it is highly suspect now if it wasn’t before.
> 
> I would think individuals in a free society would not want to be influenced by propaganda, but perhaps I’m wrong.

Do you have any evidence of this guy pushing false or slanted narratives in his previous job? Mentally normal people need more evidence of corruption than just, “Used to get paychecks from the government.”

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/40 "2019-09-11T16:49:59Z")

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Interesting that the visitors to this thread are further to the authoritarian left than even the NYT, which at least acknowledged there have been problems at the government media agencies. You guys act like you are under threat of the gulag for disloyalty to the state. Not a healthy lefty voice among you, but plenty of loyalty to Trump minions. Of course some of you have admitted to being such.

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