# Propaganda Chief Takes Helm at NPR **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009 "2019-09-10T21:13:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/61 "2019-09-12T10:26:24Z")
Balanced reporting from NPR on Samantha Power, the John Bolton of the Obama administration, only slightly more hawkish. “In her new memoir, The Education of an Idealist, she describes how she went from working outside the system – as a fierce and idealistic defender of human rights — to moving inside, as a diplomat who must, above all else, be … diplomatic.” > **[In New Memoir, Samantha Power Describes Going From Idealist To Diplomat](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/12/759886483/in-new-memoir-samantha-power-describes-going-from-idealist-to-diplomat)** > > NPR's Noel King speaks with Samantha Power about her memoir The Education of an Idealist. In her book, Power describes how she went from working outside the system to moving inside, as a diplomat. Yes the warmongers have captured the supposed liberal outlet. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/62 "2019-09-12T12:23:31Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > #3 Thanks for these clarifying remarks. As far as I can glean, your outrage stems from a government worker daring to leave his sinecure and join the private sector. What about part-time postal workers? Or should all lackeys of the jack-booted thieves be barred from civilian service throughout their lives? > [@CurtC](#): > > That’s what was confusing me about the OP. I would expect that a RW person would just _love_ VOA, with its history of pro-Americanism and anti-communism, and would be thrilled that a person connected to it would be coming to NPR. Now, now; let’s not resort to insults. RW Hyperlibertarians want the U.S. to return to the halcyon days of the Battle of Blair Mountain or the Ludlow Massacre. **Mr. Farnaby** wants to return to the Stone Age, before the chiefs who built Sumerian civilization started robbing their people at spear-point to pay for sewage drains. And I’m so sorry you can only insult me, **Mr. Farnaby**. I still look forward to an intelligible manifesto, if you have one. Last time we tried it wasn’t entirely clear whether the police of Farnabopia tortured suspects or … didn’t exist at all. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/63 "2019-09-12T12:31:53Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > … > Yes the warmongers have captured the supposed liberal outlet. Well folks, you can’t say you didn’t see that one coming! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/64 "2019-09-12T13:55:09Z")
Emphasis added. > [@septimus](#): > > …I still look forward to an **intelligible** manifesto, if you have one… That will never be forthcoming. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/65 "2019-09-12T16:56:30Z")
Oh yes, Will is falling back on liberals being more violent than conservatives because war. Samantha Power used to be a war correspondent, so she’s responsible for many casualties of war because she reported on it. That’s war propaganda. How did we not see it? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/66 "2019-09-12T19:15:22Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Oh yes, Will is falling back on liberals being more violent than conservatives because war. > > Samantha Power used to be a war correspondent, so she’s responsible for many casualties of war because she reported on it. That’s war propaganda. How did we not see it? OMG you don’t know who Samantha Power is and you are talking about foreign policy. Awkward! Lol a war correspondent. Tell that to the slaves in Libya. ---
**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/67 "2019-09-12T19:38:20Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > The revolving door between oil, gas, and coal company lobbyists going into and out of the Trump administration ((Scott Pruitt, Vincent DeVito, Joe Balash) doesn’t get the OP’s hackles up enough to post, but NPR hiring a guy who once led a liberal radio station does. > > That kind of braindead, partisan hackery can only come from a complete and utter troll with the IQ of day old rat feces. > > ::checks OP’s name:: > > I nailed it in one! As one who identifies as rat feces, I strongly resent that remark. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/68 "2019-09-12T19:38:27Z")
OK Will, since you’re too scared to provide links to support anything you say, I’ll do it for ya. Everybody, Will is basing his disdain for Samantha Power on this [Conservapedia entry](https://www.conservapedia.com/Samantha_Power). “The Trustworthy Encyclopedia.” He blindly accepted this caption under a picture of Power, Susan Rice and (da da daaaaa) Hillary Clinton plotting the downfall of Africa. > [@](#): > > Architects of the humanitarian catastrophe in Libya - Samantha Power (top) Susan Rice (left) and Hillary Clinton (right). President Obama initially billed US intervention “to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe,” however after Gaddafi’s murder the Black-African slave trade re-emerged in open slave markets in Libya.[1] NATO was used to give cover for the Obama administration’s direct involvement. and Gaddafi was MURDERED, because Banghazi and NATO coverup! So, Will takes the side of despots, just like his hero Trump. The footnote references [this article by CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/africa/libya-migrant-auctions/index.html), although I don’t see anywhere in the article that blames Obama or Rice or Clinton or Power for Libya’s slave auctions. CNN you say? I thought CNN stood for the “Communist News Network.” Oh right, Conservatives like commies now! ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/69 "2019-09-12T20:23:23Z")
Thanks for the hasty googling. I would have been embarrassed if I thought Power was simply a war correspondent. But hey. ---
**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/70 "2019-09-12T23:20:52Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I am disappointed that the government has drawn so many true public servants from the productive sector and placed them in govt positions where they do nothing but damage. Now, waitaminnit. Government is **part** of the productive economy, it is not some kind of parasitic growth on the private sector. Unless you subscribe to what economists call the “physical fallacy,” the belief that “real” wealth means only what you can hold in your hands. Soldiers and police officers and firefighters do not “produce” anything in that sense, but an economy can’t get along without them. Even **lawyers** are productive. ---
**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/71 "2019-09-12T23:26:10Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > It shows nothing but that he has too much time on his hands. As does any Doper with a high post count. Let’s not throw stones. ---
**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/72 "2019-09-12T23:28:02Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Tell that to the slaves in Libya. The Libyans have a lot of problems, but tyranny is no longer one of them. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/73 "2019-09-13T00:37:05Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#): > > As does any Doper with a high post count. Let’s not throw stones. Listen to this man. He has gained many keen insights into the board’s history, culture, idiosyncrasies and interrelationships over the course of his storied four-day presence here. Adapted so quickly, so seamlessly, that it’s almost literally impossible to believe that he hasn’t been here before. Hell, screw the “almost.” ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/74 "2019-09-13T11:17:54Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#): > > Now, waitaminnit. Government is **part** of the productive economy, it is not some kind of parasitic growth on the private sector. Unless you subscribe to what economists call the “physical fallacy,” the belief that “real” wealth means only what you can hold in your hands. Soldiers and police officers and firefighters do not “produce” anything in that sense, but an economy can’t get along without them. Even **lawyers** are productive. The shitter cleaners don’t produce anything physical but they are part of the productive sector and I admire them for that. Govt employees are not productive in any sense. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/75 "2019-09-13T11:25:20Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#): > > The Libyans have a lot of problems, but tyranny is no longer one of them. Samantha Power and John Bolton would agree. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/76 "2019-09-13T11:44:58Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The shitter cleaners don’t produce anything physical but they are part of the productive sector and I admire them for that. Govt employees are not productive in any sense. Your bigotry and stupidity are really boundless, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/77 "2019-09-13T11:52:31Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The shitter cleaners don’t produce anything physical but they are part of the productive sector and I admire them for that. **Govt employees are not productive in any sense.** You’d fit in perfectly, then. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/78 "2019-09-13T12:25:07Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Thanks for the hasty googling. I would have been embarrassed if I thought Power was simply a war correspondent. But hey. Really? That’s the line of embarrassment for you and blindly accepting an obviously bogus Conservapedia article isn’t? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/79 "2019-09-13T12:27:30Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The shitter cleaners don’t produce anything physical but they are part of the productive sector and I admire them for that. Govt employees are not productive in any sense. What about shitter cleaners employed by the government? CHECKMATE, sir. It’s okay. You’ll get over being so thoroughly PWND. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009/80 "2019-09-13T13:08:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What about shitter cleaners employed by the government? > > CHECKMATE, sir. It’s okay. You’ll get over being so thoroughly PWND. > > 😉 OUCH! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/propaganda-chief-takes-helm-at-npr/840009.md?page=5)