# Proper Trolling Etiquette.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 17, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995 "2016-05-17T14:17:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/61 "2016-05-20T03:36:12Z")

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> [@lance\_strongarm](#):
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> I didn’t. The insult wasn’t in the Pit.
> 
> But thanks for asking.

That response WAS in the pit.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/62 "2016-05-20T06:55:24Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> And I think we shouldn’t. So, there! 😛

As the voice of reason in this One Flew Over the Derpers Nest, I defer to your superior intellect. 😛

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/63 "2016-05-20T11:22:56Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> In the Why is Prince considered a Genius? thread, I allowed my buttons to be pushed. It was a case of someone saying “meh, I don’t hear it” and actually trying to take the time to have a discussion about the music, the skills, etc., when the response never wavered from “okay, fine, but I still don’t like him.”
> 
> By page 7, I got carbonated. Shame on me.
> 
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791111&page=7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791111&page=7)

The most pernicious part of that particular poster’s behavior is that they present a point of view that is enormously common in their particular case if you accept that they are as old as they purport to be. I have had more than one friend of various ages that I have had to disabuse of the notion that they could cite a year, a style, or some other quality that cut off when “good music” stopped happening. It’s a bullshit premise on its face if you know a damn thing about music or art that’s worth talking about beyond “what I like is…”. When challenged, this particular nitwit doubles down on their bullshit premise until you’ve broken it down it’s logical blocks. I’ve bothered to do it once, that I can recognize. But that only lasts for a thread, at best. They’ll be back with another assault of wielding ignorance as a weapon\* soon enough.  
But, even if they’re are being honest, they’re one stupid dipshit. If you respond to them, be sure to give them the same respect they give you. They have shown that they don’t deserve the common grace of assuming that you might have misunderstood their tone. I may be me deluding myself, but I think they’re dumb enough to believe what they post. It’s not too terribly sad, other than they seem to believe they are special for believing it.

\*I can’t find the source, but another Doper accused the nitwit of this, and it’s stuck in my head every time I’ve read one of their posts. Either way, they’re the **adahaer** of being right about music.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/64 "2016-05-20T11:32:23Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> Of course they’re not claims you made, they’re a sarcastic counter to the claim you did make. Crude and possibly off target, sure, but I won, which is what matters.

You aren’t by any chance a sock of Starving Artist?

Do we have a history of antagonism that I’m unaware of? Perhaps I just irritate you. In either case, I’m happy to concede your victory, especially since I didn’t know there was a contest in progress.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/65 "2016-05-20T13:20:42Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> You aren’t by any chance a sock of Starving Artist?
> 
> Do we have a history of antagonism that I’m unaware of? Perhaps I just irritate you. In either case, I’m happy to concede your victory, especially since I didn’t know there was a contest in progress.

It’s a pit thread about trolling, so I was just being obnoxious on principle. 🙂 An no argument that ends in being accused of being a sock of Starving Artist can be considered a victory. I yield.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/66 "2016-05-20T17:36:30Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> The most pernicious part of that particular poster’s behavior is that they present a point of view that is enormously common in their particular case if you accept that they are as old as they purport to be. I have had more than one friend of various ages that I have had to disabuse of the notion that they could cite a year, a style, or some other quality that cut off when “good music” stopped happening. It’s a bullshit premise on its face if you know a damn thing about music or art that’s worth talking about beyond “what I like is…”. When challenged, this particular nitwit doubles down on their bullshit premise until you’ve broken it down it’s logical blocks. I’ve bothered to do it once, that I can recognize. But that only lasts for a thread, at best. They’ll be back with another assault of wielding ignorance as a weapon\* soon enough.
> 
> But, even if they’re are being honest, they’re one stupid dipshit. If you respond to them, be sure to give them the same respect they give you. They have shown that they don’t deserve the common grace of assuming that you might have misunderstood their tone. I may be me deluding myself, but I think they’re dumb enough to believe what they post. It’s not too terribly sad, other than they seem to believe they are special for believing it.
> 
> \*I can’t find the source, but another Doper accused the nitwit of this, and it’s stuck in my head every time I’ve read one of their posts. Either way, they’re the **adahaer** of being right about music.

All true. You feel like there is potential for a thoughtful discussion, but it turns out to be a 5-year-old kid saying “But why?” or “Nuh-unh!” endlessly.

Crazy-making, as evidenced by my little outburst.

I think of the approach as coming from a **Nigerian Prince Troll** - they get you going with a promise of a big return on your investment. So they start with “I don’t get that musician; I just don’t hear it - what is good about this person?” When you try to offer some thoughts, they come back with “Buy why?” or “Nuh-unh!” - but at that point, I have made an investment and would like to see if I can get it to pay off, even though, as someone pointed out upthread, they came back with non-answers 45 frikkin’ times.

At that point, I was hooked on the line, flopping along merrily. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/67 "2016-05-20T17:44:19Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> It’s a pit thread about trolling, so I was just being obnoxious on principle. 🙂 An no argument that ends in being accused of being a sock of Starving Artist can be considered a victory. I yield.

Ah, no worries then. We’ll call it a draw.🙂

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/68 "2016-05-24T01:07:52Z")

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[His latest work. "How to tell some one there are too fat to ride in your car](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793814). If this doesn’t convince the fence sitters in this thread, I don’t know what will.

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**Author:** ![T-Minus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T-Minus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T-Minus)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/69 "2016-05-24T02:16:16Z")

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Meh, I really don’t see what the fuss is about. Is having an LDR so hard to believe?

I posted the thread about declawing cats because I was legitamently intrested in what people thought about it. The third tread was because my friend was having that problem.

I don’t post a lot because I get very busy in real life. Any of you can approach me if you have a problem.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/70 "2016-05-24T02:33:29Z")

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Oh, I get it. You’re **Just Asking Questions** , then.

ETA: not the Doper with that name. I don’t mean to call either of you a sock.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/71 "2016-05-24T02:42:36Z")

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> [@T-Minus](#):
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> Meh, I really don’t see what the fuss is about. Is having an LDR so hard to believe?
> 
> I posted the thread about declawing cats because I was legitamently intrested in what people thought about it. The third tread was because my friend was having that problem.
> 
> I don’t post a lot because I get very busy in real life. Any of you can approach me if you have a problem.

A smart troll wouldn’t misspell “legitimately interested.” A dumb one certainly would. But carry on, and we’ll carry on pointing and laughing at your weak trolling efforts.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/72 "2016-05-24T02:43:27Z")

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> [@T-Minus](#):
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> The third tread was because my friend was having that problem.

I think it’s charming that you actually believe anyone anywhere buys the “My friend has a problem” thing, whether it’s by you or anyone else.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/73 "2016-05-24T03:02:13Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Maybe we should shut these boards down because off all the disagreements and people having different opinions about things. :eek:

He asks how a murderer or rapist can be judged if they do it just once. If you think that’s a sincere question, I’d say that’s even worse.

Good trolling is always going to leave you wondering if the person was really trolling. Bad trolling sticks out like a sore thumb.

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**Author:** ![T-Minus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@T-Minus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T-Minus)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/74 "2016-05-24T03:02:20Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> I think it’s charming that you actually believe anyone anywhere buys the “My friend has a problem” thing, whether it’s by you or anyone else.

Yeah, because it’s not realistically possible for a friend to come to you with a problem; isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/75 "2016-05-24T03:37:35Z")

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> [@YogSothoth](#):
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> Is that so bad? We allow people to post about their real life dramas. So what’s wrong with fake drama? If I wanted to pretend a particularly salacious plot point on TV is my own, what’s the difference between that discussion and a real one?

Truth vs. non-truth.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/76 "2016-05-24T03:45:13Z")

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And our troll starts yet another thread.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793814](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793814)

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/77 "2016-05-24T03:47:33Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> And our troll starts yet another thread.
> 
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793814](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793814)

You’re late. Post #68.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/78 "2016-05-24T03:48:36Z")

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☹ phail my.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/79 "2016-05-24T13:40:22Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> I think it’s charming that you actually believe anyone anywhere buys the “My friend has a problem” thing, whether it’s by you or anyone else.

Wasn’t there another poster some while back who posted a lot of questions because his friend wants to know?

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proper-trolling-etiquette/754995/80 "2016-05-24T15:14:12Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I’d like to add, that the post Lance is quoting in **Morgenstern’s** post is mine. And Lance is utterly lying about what I said in that post to… I dunno… just attack something.

I didn’t lie about anything.

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