# Proposal: Long Time Members Must Be Suspended Before They Can Be Banned **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 18, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992 "2019-01-18T16:50:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/41 "2019-01-20T21:22:15Z")
That’s fair. I’ll make an announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/42 "2019-01-20T21:57:42Z")
Regarding the announcement, is a profile warning something sent to someone when they are a jerk in a PM, a warning directed at jerkish behavior in a profile or signature, or something else entirely? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/43 "2019-01-20T22:08:16Z")
A profile warning is anything not associated with a visible post. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/44 "2019-01-20T23:29:08Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > That’s fair. I’ll make an announcement. Thanks. Can this be a general policy, please? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/45 "2019-01-20T23:31:19Z")
We typically already do this. Occasionally there is an oversight. We also don’t announce socks, spammers, etc. but generally anyone that has been here for a significant amount of time that is banned gets an announcement. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/46 "2019-01-21T01:30:57Z")
Also, as defacto leader of the board, I insist that all mod-notes about bannings/suspensions follow the following format: \< So and so \> has been banned/suspended for general douchebaggery. Each of these should be a link: [ul] [li]The final straw, the last chance[/li][li]Next prior offense[/li][li]Offense before that[/li][li]Etc as needed. [/ul][/li] Any mod NOT obeying my directives will be boxed, beaten and possibly spanked, depending. Are we clear here? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/47 "2019-01-21T01:32:50Z")
No? ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/48 "2019-01-21T01:38:47Z")
I know what’s clear here, but it ain’t that directive. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/49 "2019-01-21T01:43:09Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Any mod NOT obeying my directives will be boxed, beaten and possibly spanked, depending. > > Are we clear here? And after the spanking, the oral sex. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/50 "2019-01-21T02:52:20Z")
On the goat? This ain’t that sort of board. ---
**Author:** ![MrKnowItAll](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrknowitall/32/87_2.png) [@MrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/51 "2019-01-21T04:20:15Z")
I think such a rule would be a bad idea. It needs to be fluid enough to make the response dependent on the offense. …and frankly, having a different rule for long time members is asking for trouble. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/52 "2019-01-21T05:08:52Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > And after the spanking, the oral sex. You are in great peril. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/53 "2019-01-21T06:23:55Z")
Let’s not go there, 'tis a silly place. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/54 "2019-01-21T16:32:09Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > No, it is not about revenge or hurting anyone, it is about measures that actually have effect. If someone is having a bad week it shouldn’t become a suicide by mod. If someone is trolling the mods on where to dance on the line you could just stop the non-debate. More drastic, less permanent. I agree with this. If someone tries to commit suicide by mod, then don’t let them jump, pull them off the ledge. As an aside: has a ban ever been reversed? Can it be? Let’s say that I have a week where my wife leaves me, someone kicked my dog, and my house burned down. I get on here and overreact to a post and call a mod a short dicked little monkey fuck of a weasel and get banned. In six months, can I say I’m sorry and get my privileges restored? Sort of like a pardon? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/55 "2019-01-21T16:35:56Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > A profile warning is anything not associated with a visible post. For transparency, at the same time he was insulting mods in ATMB, he also sent me a hostile, vulgar, and belligerent PM. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/56 "2019-01-21T16:40:36Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I agree with this. If someone tries to commit suicide by mod, then don’t let them jump, pull them off the ledge. > > As an aside: has a ban ever been reversed? Can it be? Let’s say that I have a week where my wife leaves me, someone kicked my dog, and my house burned down. I get on here and overreact to a post and call a mod a short dicked little monkey fuck of a weasel and get banned. In six months, can I say I’m sorry and get my privileges restored? Sort of like a pardon? I believe it has been tried in the past, but I don’t recall if it has ever worked. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/57 "2019-01-21T16:43:11Z")
I’m not opposed to revisiting decisions of the past. The bar would be high. We don’t have a formal process for it but we have had emails and discussions previously. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/58 "2019-01-21T22:53:16Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I agree with this. If someone tries to commit suicide by mod, then don’t let them jump, pull them off the ledge. > > As an aside: has a ban ever been reversed? Can it be? Let’s say that I have a week where my wife leaves me, someone kicked my dog, and my house burned down. I get on here and overreact to a post and call a mod a short dicked little monkey fuck of a weasel and get banned. In six months, can I say I’m sorry and get my privileges restored? Sort of like a pardon? Yes it has happened. People have applied for reinstatement and have been readmitted. In two cases I am aware of, they were banned later. Still in one of those cases, the poster got to post some decent material in the meanwhile. In a third case the reinstated poster didn’t have much later activity. Official board policy c. Jan 2003: > [@Arnold Winkelried](#): > > If Satan wants to get reinstated, he should e-mail an administrator and present his case for reinstatement. > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2818066&postcount=56](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2818066&postcount=56) kirkland1244 and Collounsbury were banned, reinstated, and banned. Satan had his application denied. Krispy was banned and reinstated successfully as of 2003, though he rarely posts, according to this 2003 post by Gaudere: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2824237&postcount=209](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2824237&postcount=209) (A poster named Krispy has posted a total of one time, so that’s not who Gaudere was referring to. The other 2 Krispy name variants haven’t posted over the past 10 years.) The Kirk case: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2824237&postcount=209](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2824237&postcount=209) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/59 "2019-01-21T23:04:11Z")
I miss Satan. Well, that’s not quite correct. What I miss is typing sentences like, “I agree with Satan”, or “Satan makes some good points, but he needs to dial it back.” Back in the day GD was like an extended riff on _Sympathy for the Devil_. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992/60 "2019-01-21T23:13:34Z")
Satan was banned way back in 2001. That’s a lot of water under the bridge since then. I see him on Facebook occasionally. Man, that’s something I never thought I’d say. But that was a long time ago and we’ve all calmed down/slowed down since those early days. Jenny your humble TubaDiva [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposal-long-time-members-must-be-suspended-before-they-can-be-banned/827992.md?page=4)