# Proposed:  No Toleration of any Slur Words in Pit Titles

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**Created:** [March 7, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641 "2010-03-07T19:10:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/1 "2010-03-07T19:10:38Z")

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I originally thought that all I could do was propose a new rule, but after a review of currently existing Pit rules, there may be a case that lines have already been crossed. (I still have refrained from reporting the OP of a fairly new thread, because there may be some ambiguity.)

From Revised Forum Rules for the BBQ Pit: read this before posting

> [@](#):
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> No hate speech
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> If you say hateful and/or racist things, you may get warned or banned. Some slurs are likely to be viewed as hate speech when used as insults, some aren’t. No, we aren’t going to give you a list. Our goal is not to restrict any and all speech which could be viewed by someone as offensive, but simply keep a modicum of decency, even here.

I was somewhat surprised when I reviewed the Pit rules and found this. It’s an old rule, judging from the lack or underlining in the March 2009 document.

I realize that there may be an unwritten sliding scale for what is considered a “slur.” However, when it comes to thread titles, there should be no tolerance at all, IMO, for any use of a group slur word.

[Damn Yankees](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=472870)

and

[Fatties](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554791)

are to me clear instances of slur words that target groups of people. Some of us in the doper community are included in these groups.

Also in that rules thread, a new entry:

> [@](#):
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> Don’t go nuts in thread titles

This was never explained.

It could mean quite a number of things, but I’m thinking that the use of a slur word could be considered as an instance.

I have a feeling that the mods and admins will appreciate and consider what I am advocating here. I’m sure that many members and guests will strongly disagree. “It’s the Pit!” That’s okay. But I want everyone to try to understand is that it’s a different matter with thread titles. Slurs, including debatable ones, should be excluded from them all, even within the Pit.

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_ **- Trans Fat Og** _

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/2 "2010-03-07T19:27:54Z")

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You have got to be kidding.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/3 "2010-03-07T19:57:08Z")

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> [@Trans Fat Og](#):
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> [Damn Yankees](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=472870)
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> and
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> [Fatties](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554791)

Really? This seems excessively sensitive. I was expecting this to be a complaint about that Sarah Palin thread about her “retard” baby being called a “nigger”. That would at least seem like a reasonable complaint.

Really, if “Fatties” and “Damn Yankees” bothers you, stay out of the pit. It’s not for you.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/4 "2010-03-07T20:11:44Z")

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Interesting idea, **Trans Fat Og**. My counter-proposal is that we go back to very few rules in the Pit, and use it as it’s supposed to be used - as a safety valve for people to blow off steam.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/5 "2010-03-07T20:13:32Z")

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I don’t think it’s reasonable to interpret fatties or Yankees - especially Yankees - as “hateful.”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/6 "2010-03-07T20:22:05Z")

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Anything about the Yankees should be fair game.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/7 "2010-03-07T20:56:39Z")

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Is this a wind up?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/8 "2010-03-07T21:01:14Z")

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I for one applaud the OP: this whole “BBQ Pit” forum has allowed inter-poster rudeness for far too long. I say we adopt a “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” policy, so I can finally share my French Onion soup recipe without people calling me stupid or criticizing my use of canned French Onion soup.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/9 "2010-03-07T21:09:07Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I for one applaud the OP: this whole “BBQ Pit” forum has allowed inter-poster rudeness for far too long. I say we adopt a “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” policy, so I can finally share my French Onion soup recipe without people calling me stupid or criticizing my use of canned French Onion soup.

Can we also make rule that from now on we call it “Freedom Onion Soup”?

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**Author:** ![bettyporkta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@bettyporkta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bettyporkta)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/10 "2010-03-07T21:10:46Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Anything about the Yankees should be fair game.

especially the fat ones…!😛

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/11 "2010-03-07T21:18:36Z")

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Even more language restrictions! That’s exactly what we need.

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**Author:** ![maplekiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@maplekiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maplekiwi)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/12 "2010-03-07T21:24:18Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Can we also make rule that from now on we call it “Freedom Onion Soup”?

**Hahahahahaha!**

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/13 "2010-03-07T21:27:43Z")

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**Giraffe** , you ignorant slut.

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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/14 "2010-03-07T22:07:07Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I for one applaud the OP: this whole “BBQ Pit” forum has allowed inter-poster rudeness for far too long. I say we adopt a “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” policy…

..

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**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/15 "2010-03-07T22:08:31Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> **Giraffe** , you ignorant slut.

[mowderator’s note]Please don’t call other posters a Giraffe outside the Pit. Thanks.[/mowderator’s note\*]

\*For the humor impaired, mowderator is not an official title on the SDMB, and this post is not an official note.

ETA: For the origin of the word mowderator, please read [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=554232)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/16 "2010-03-07T22:52:24Z")

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😃

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/17 "2010-03-07T23:34:16Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> . . . criticizing my use of canned French Onion soup.

I agree you should not be criticized for this: we do not permit negative posts or threads about banned posters and using canned soup for French Onion really requires banning.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/18 "2010-03-07T23:40:00Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I don’t think it’s reasonable to interpret fatties or Yankees - especially Yankees - as “hateful.”

You’re clearly not a Red Sox or Mets fan.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/19 "2010-03-08T00:04:12Z")

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Before we start worrying about non-existent slurs, we should really be focusing on people with the “wrong” opinions. That’d be much more productive.

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**Author:** ![akennett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee59a6/32.png) [@akennett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akennett)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/20 "2010-03-08T00:04:38Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I agree you should not be criticized for this: we do not permit negative posts or threads about banned posters and using canned soup for French Onion really requires banning.

Indeed! It’s an envelope of Lipton’s dried soup base or nothing!!

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