# Proposed: No Toleration of any Slur Words in Pit Titles **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 7, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641 "2010-03-07T19:10:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/61 "2010-03-11T16:22:37Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Yummy? Cute. 🙂 But I of course meant a word you could use that would immediately conjure an image of a curvy, but not overweight, figure, without any second guessing about whether it’s code talk for fat. If a woman describes herself as curvy, I automatically interpret that to mean fat. If a man describes a woman as curvy, I’m unsure of if he’s trying to find a nice way of describing her as fat. > [@E-Sabbath](#): > > Callipygian? I thought that referred to the ass only. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/62 "2010-03-11T16:31:21Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Is there even a word anymore that refers to women with hourglass figures who aren’t fat? Voluptuous? Curvaceous? ---
**Author:** ![melodyharmonius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/melodyharmonius/32/21310_2.png) [@melodyharmonius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/melodyharmonius)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/63 "2010-03-11T16:39:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Voluptuous? Curvaceous? I would say that voluptuous (as a fat and fabu gal) is even more synonymous with fat than curvy is. At least for me, I interpret voluptuous as “fat with a nice rack” as opposed to just fat. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/64 "2010-03-11T16:55:07Z")
Meh. I’m done thinking about this. I think if you specifically have to tack on the words “but not fat” to make it clear you’re not engaging in euphemismry. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/65 "2010-03-11T17:05:30Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Meh. I’m done thinking about this. I think if you specifically have to tack on the words “but not fat” to make it clear you’re not engaging in euphemismry. “Yummy” is starting to look better, huh? ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/66 "2010-03-11T19:31:54Z")
I call women who starve themselves to fit a “supermodel” image “scrawny”. I used to call them “skinny”, but I found that they like that. They don’t like scrawny, so scrawny it is. I like “yummy”. I don’t like abs on a women. Or flat butts. Jennifer Lopez looks yummy to me. Like that, yummy. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/67 "2010-03-11T22:21:23Z")
Juno-esque? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/68 "2010-03-11T22:33:49Z")
Rubenesque? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/69 "2010-03-11T22:45:31Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > If a man describes a woman as curvy, I’m unsure of if he’s trying to find a nice way of describing her as fat. I usually go with “has a good sense of humor.”🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/70 "2010-03-11T22:58:21Z")
awesome T&A ---
**Author:** ![MitzeKatze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@MitzeKatze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MitzeKatze)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/71 "2010-03-11T23:05:32Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Wait. People call obese folks _fatties_? I thought fatties were plump cannabis cigs. I need to get with the times, I guess. One of the feral cats that eats at my house is quite obese (which makes him twice as adorable) so I call him Fattie. He doesn’t find it offensive or think of it as a slur word, in fact recently I got him to come to me just by saying, “come here, Fattie”. Now there is another stray out there who I call Blackie (I think I see a naming pattern here ;)) and my grown son has told me on a couple of occasions that I should be careful opening the door and shouting, “Blackie!” because it might be offensive to those who don’t know it is a cat. I never thought of either as a slur really…just a description and one done in a cutesy (not mean) way. ---
**Author:** ![MitzeKatze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@MitzeKatze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MitzeKatze)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/72 "2010-03-11T23:08:06Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I usually go with “has a good sense of humor.”🙂 That works. “Has a great personality” does too, but I think that usually means “ugly” so if the woman you are describing “Has a great personality and a good sense of humor” I guess she’d be both fat and ugly? ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/73 "2010-03-12T00:47:19Z")
> [@MitzeKatze](#): > > That works. “Has a great personality” does too, but I think that usually means “ugly” so if the woman you are describing “Has a great personality and a good sense of humor” I guess she’d be both fat and ugly? I thought that only boy’s hopeful moms used those terms. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/74 "2010-03-12T01:09:25Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > I would also like to propose that the following words be disallowed from Pit titles: “obese”, “plump”, “bloated”, “zaftig”, “fluffy”, and “Jabba”. I’ll support your list, but only if we also ban entirely from the board the following: boobie, tushy, burp, fanny burp, water closet, underpants, dingle-dangle, Boston marriage, LBJ, Titicaca, hot dog, and front lumps. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/75 "2010-03-12T01:19:33Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I’ll support your list, but only if we also ban entirely from the board the following: boobie, tushy, burp, fanny burp, water closet, underpants, dingle-dangle, Boston marriage, LBJ, Titicaca, hot dog, and front lumps. Nonono. Titicaca was our favorite word in grammar school geography. Please do not take this small joy from catholic school children everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/76 "2010-03-12T01:59:41Z")
> [@MitzeKatze](#): > > That works. “Has a great personality” does too, but I think that usually means “ugly” In my experience “she has nice eyes” is the one that translates as meaning “homely as hell.” ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/77 "2010-03-12T15:27:31Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > awesome T&A Ha! > [@Colibri](#): > > In my experience “she has nice eyes” is the one that translates as meaning “homely as hell.” Double Ha! Every time someone compliments me on some off the wall thing, I say “Thank You,” but am secretly thinking, “Is he saying I’m ugly?” Last strange compliment I received from a guy was on my eyelashes. That’s sort of like “Nice eyes.” ☹ > [@MitzeKatze](#): > > Now there is another stray out there who I call Blackie (I think I see a naming pattern here ;)) and my grown son has told me on a couple of occasions that I should be careful opening the door and shouting, “Blackie!” because it might be offensive to those who don’t know it is a cat. I had a dog who I referred to as Blackie for several months because I couldn’t be bothered to come up with a name. My mom said, “You can’t call the dog that!” I said, “Why not?” When she just kind of grimaced at me instead of answering, it dawned on me, oh yeah, that. We might have gotten less flak for shouting “Blackie!” in public because we were (still are) black, but I would still imagine it would have been an unpleasant thing to hear for some people. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/78 "2010-03-12T16:25:08Z")
Come here for a minute! Can’t you see your dog is a ni? ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/79 "2010-03-12T17:06:31Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > In my experience “she has nice eyes” is the one that translates as meaning “homely as hell.” A (female) friend once told me that one of the first things she had noticed about me when we met (after several months of online chat) was that I had kind eyes. Was she trying to avoid saying something else? ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641/80 "2010-03-12T19:53:36Z")
This thread is really drifting into not About This Message Board territory – though it’s fascinating. Perhaps one of you should restart this conversation in another forum area – with a link to here if that’s appropriate. This is really more of a MPSIMS thing but moving the entire thread there is not the thing to do. Edit: Heck with it, I started it myself. > **[What they say/what it really means](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=555650)** > > Moved over from a thread in ATMB: This thread drifted into a discussion of what people say versus what that really means. For example, how all the terms used to describe curvy females really indicates “fat.” Or: And: Jenny “Oh I don’t want... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proposed-no-toleration-of-any-slur-words-in-pit-titles/531641.md?page=5)