# Protection From Pornography Week, 2003

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135 "2003-10-28T23:45:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/1 "2003-10-28T23:45:49Z")

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> For Immediate Release  
> Office of the Press Secretary  
> October 25, 2003
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> By the President of the United States of America  
> A Proclamation
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> Pornography can have debilitating effects on communities, marriages, families, and children. During Protection From Pornography Week, we commit to take steps to confront the dangers of pornography.
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> [http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031025-1.html](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031025-1.html)

(I’m not going to paste the entire propaganda here.)

What the fuck? Hasn’t “porn equals child abuse/rape/sexual deviants” been pretty much discounted? From what I can tell putting the blame on porn is the same as blaming cigarettes for creating sexual predators. Correct me if I’m wrong but there really isn’t solid evidence to back up that claim.

How come the US government has to create a “war on everything”. Porn is used by a vast majority of the USA. Hundreds of thousands of healthy people enjoy porn in the privacy of their own homes. Couples rent and buy porn to “spice up” their sex lives. Porn is a multi-billion dollar TAX PAYING industry. Just because George is a pent up little fucker doesn’t mean everyone else is. (Trust me on this one. I used to repair computers. 80% of the hard drives had some sort of porn on them.)

Porn is not an underground thing. I can walk 5 minutes to my nearby “stop-n-rob” store and legally buy _Busty Teen Vixens_\*, or wander up one block to another store and buy Playboy or Penthouse. I can enter the word “tits” in google and have 30,000 returns. I can drive down to my corner adult video store and get _Stop my Ass is on Fire - Volume 3_ on DVD and a vibrating jelly butt plug to go. I can turn on my TV and flip to the “porn-per-view” channels, agree to spend $8.99 for two hours and PRESTO, naked, oiled, implanted girls with fake fingernails and too much makeup appear on the tube. Just because I can do these things (and HAVE done several of them) does not mean I’m driving over to the grade school to kidnap and rape pre-teen girls. I’m not suddenly overtaken by the urge to go jerk off in the produce section at the market. I’m not going to start stalking the high school cheerleading squad. And guess what? Neither are the million plus other porn users the US.

The Whitehouse is claiming porn creates bad people. It simply does not. If it did, the USA would be filled to the brim with sex offenders. Child abusers commonly stem from being abused as children. Sexual predators and rapists are about power, not sex. These people have real, deep rooted problems which were not caused by watching _Edward Penishands_.

I’m not saying the US shouldn’t go after sexual predators with their biggest stick, they should. I’m not saying the feds shouldn’t bust child pornography rings, they should. But **if you’re going to give it a name, give it an honest name**. This isn’t the fucking 50’s. Porn, masturbation and sex are not going to make way for communist Russia.

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> I call upon public officials, law enforcement officers, parents, and all the people of the United States to observe this week with appropriate programs and activities.

Like what? Book burning? Arresting stripers and anyone else with fake fingernails, big hair, too much make-up and breast implants? Why don’t we just over react all together and ban cameras, computers, paper and printing presses?

I think George just needs a good fucking.

_cue music_  
That’s it George, take it all. You like that don’t you? Oh yeah. How about a little of this? _SPANK_ Oh,. Heh heh. You like that do you? Well, you HAVE been a bad, bad boy. _SPANK_ WHO’S YOUR DADDY?!?!

Opps. Sorry. That must have been the porn talking.

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/2 "2003-10-28T23:47:48Z")

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Opps. I guess I messed up on some of my tags. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/3 "2003-10-29T00:09:54Z")

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Well, _I_ plan to observe this week with appropriate activities… Aw, yeah!

_::cue porno soundtrack::_

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/4 "2003-10-29T00:11:24Z")

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> I call upon public officials, law enforcement officers, parents, and all the people of the United States to observe this week with appropriate programs and activities.

_:fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap:_

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> IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand…

_:fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap:_

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**Author:** ![Mikahw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Mikahw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikahw)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/5 "2003-10-29T00:13:51Z")

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> exploi-ta-tion

What’s with that? Is it the GWB pronunciation guide or something?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/6 "2003-10-29T00:15:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Seven \*  
> \*\*The Whitehouse is claiming porn creates bad people. \*\*

That is _such_ an appropriate typo … Here in the UK, Mary Whitehouse was the founder, and for many years the leader, of the National Viewers’ and Listeners’ Association, an organization tirelessly dedicated to keeping sex and violence off our TV screens. She was a silly old bat.

However, your Glorious Leader’s clarion call must not go unanswered. I hereby volunteer to throw myself on any unexploded pornography that may threaten the American Way of Life. Should you come across pornography, send it overseas, to someone who will deal with it appropriately …

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**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/7 "2003-10-29T00:19:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Steve Wright \*  
> \*\*However, your Glorious Leader’s clarion call must not go unanswered. I hereby volunteer to throw myself on any unexploded pornography that may threaten the American Way of Life. Should you come across pornography, send it overseas, to someone who will deal with it appropriately … \*\*

Hey! Charity starts at home, you leech!

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/8 "2003-10-29T00:23:59Z")

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Huh. I just went to the American family Association web page earlier and that caught my eye.

I care not one white for porn myself.  
i have a question: a lot has been said about porn causing Ted Bundy’s violence.  
Does anyone here agree that his purportedly large porn collection and his own admittance that it warped him was true?

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/9 "2003-10-29T00:29:47Z")

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Am I the only one who thinks this has John Ashcroft’s fingerprints all over it?

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**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/10 "2003-10-29T00:36:17Z")

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> **I call upon public officials, law enforcement officers, parents, and all the people of the United States to observe this week with appropriate programs and activities.**

Well, I know what I’ll be doing tonight. Time to break out the ol’ skin mags and order some pay-per-view fuckin’. Sounds appropriate to me!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/11 "2003-10-29T00:45:28Z")

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There is a video taped interview of Ted Bundy mere hours (supposedly) before his execution where he is quite vocal on his view of the link between between porn and death row.

But, that was a convicted serial murderer, not a psychologist.

Everything I’ve ever read or heard seems completely polarised to one side or the other (no cites) of the debate. Are there any definitive answers to any of the claims, for either view?

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**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/12 "2003-10-29T00:49:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Seven \*  
> \*\* I can enter the word “tits” in google and have 30,000 returns. \*\*

More like 3.1 million.

As part of this protection from pornography week proclamation, he talks about committing resources to investigate sexual exploitation of children over the Internet and other such things. Fine. I have no problem with that. But this, this I cannot stand:

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> prosecutorial efforts to combat obscenity

Who the fuck gives a shit about obscenity? Seriously, folks. Obscenity laws are stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid. As long as nobody’s getting hurt, as long as nobody’s being forced into doing something, why is it the government’s business what kind of sick shit I want to look at? It shouldn’t be, but it is.

And what exactly are the “dangers of pornography”? Orgasms? No, wait. That’s not a bad thing. I… I… gahh! Why do we need to be protected? Why?! Do we need a Protection From Naughty Words Week too? Protection From Scary Movies Week? How many damn things is Bush going to protect? Gays are icky, we need to protect ourselves from them marrying. Porn makes me uncomfortable, we need to protect ourselves from it. Give it a break.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/13 "2003-10-29T00:53:36Z")

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There is a video taped interview of Ted Bundy mere hours (supposedly) before his execution where he is quite vocal on his view of the link between between porn and death row.

But, that was a convicted serial murderer, not a psychologist.

Everything I’ve ever read or heard seems completely polarised to one side or the other (no cites) of the debate. Are there any definitive answers to any of the claims, for either view?

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/14 "2003-10-29T01:14:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by vanilla \*  
> **I care not one white for porn myself.**

Not surprising coming from someone with your user name. 🙂

Seriously folks, porn is bad for, but as a good citizen I will take it upon myself to relieve you of your porn. Please package it up and send it to Tampa, FL c/o **Amp**. Oh, and if you could, please include some tissues and water based lubricant. No need to thank me, just doing my part.

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**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/15 "2003-10-29T01:22:52Z")

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> Should you come across pornography, send it overseas, tosomeone who will deal with it appropriately …

Dude, I don’t think you really want porn someone else has already come across.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/16 "2003-10-29T01:30:25Z")

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In Richmond B.C., there’s a second-hand porn store visible from the highway. WTF?

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/17 "2003-10-29T01:53:11Z")

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re: Ted Bundy, I’d say it was more likely that he amassed a large porn collection as a result of his already warped psyche, rather than the other way around.

As for Bundy’s ‘admission’ it sounds more like him trying to defer the blame away from himself and on to an easy scapegoat that can’t refute his claims.

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/18 "2003-10-29T02:09:57Z")

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Meanwhile, in Canada, marijuana has been decriminalized, gay marriage has been legalized, and noone, other than possibly the far-right Canadian Alliance party, would have the gall to declare this week “Protection From Pornography Week.”

I love my country. I. Love. My. Country.

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**Author:** ![Already\_in\_Use](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Already\_in\_Use](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Already_in_Use)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/19 "2003-10-29T02:24:46Z")

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But… but I thought the point of porn was that you don’t NEED to use any protection!

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**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2003, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protection-from-pornography-week-2003/210135/20 "2003-10-29T02:25:52Z")

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In observance of this lastest attempt to tell me how to live, I shall be penning several pornographic short stories. Perhaps I’ll send a copy to the White House.

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