# protesting an ice cream parlor
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [April 3, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744 "2018-04-03T19:17:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/1 "2018-04-03T19:17:26Z")
A certain group of people are [very cross about](https://wokesloth.com/ice-cream-shoppe/mariam/) an ice cream parlor:
_Canadian ice cream company [Sweet Jesus ice cream](http://www.sweetjesus4life.com/menu/)— currently expanding into the United States— is in the midst of some seriously hellacious controversy … facing calls of boycott from Christian communities over its name and imagery, and is contending with a [CitizenGo.org petition](http://citizengo.org/en-ca/sc/158645-toronto-based-ice-cream-parlours-serve-blasphemy)claiming it “serves up blasphemy” … Ian O’Sullivan, the man responsible for starting the petition, wrote that certain flavors of ice cream (referencing ‘Red Rapture’ and ‘Sweet Baby Jesus’) are “anti-Christ” and “anti-Christian” …_
Not sure if this is funny or sad.
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### Author:  [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/2 "2018-04-03T19:26:36Z")
The mind boggles – you could play this out to the hilt
Imagine flavors like
Forty Days of Temptation Chocolate
Rocky Road to Damascus
Roman Delight
Water and Wine Ice
Cursed Fig
Purple Passion
Milk and Honey
Locust Bean
Heavenly Manna
and there would signs in the bathrooms saying “Pilate says everyone should wash their hands.”
I’m definitely going to Hell for this.
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### Author:  [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/3 "2018-04-03T19:28:38Z")
This is why I am opposed to the concept of “hate speech” as a restriction on freedom of speech. These folks are welcome to boycott this business and to stir up as many people as they can to also boycott them. They should not be able to use force of law to make them change either their business name or the names of their products because they hurt other peoples’ feelings.
Of course that principle works for anyone’s hurt feelings, including holocaust survivors. As far as free speech is concerned, nothing is sacred.
So all the liberals who want to use the idea of hate speech so that they don’t have to hear stuff that they find offensive, right back at you.
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### Author:  [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/4 "2018-04-03T19:35:18Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’m definitely going to Hell for this.
If Hell has ice cream, is it really Hell? 😃
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### Author:  [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/5 "2018-04-03T19:39:55Z")
“Our name was created from the popular phrase that people use as an expression of enjoyment, surprise or disbelief. Our aim is not to offer commentary on anyone’s religion or belief systems. Our own organization is made up of amazing people that represent a wide range of cultural and religious beliefs.”
Right, because there was no other expression that conveys enjoyment, surprise or disbelief??!
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### Author:  [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/6 "2018-04-03T19:43:18Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> They should not be able to use force of law to make them change either their business name or the names of their products because they hurt other peoples’ feelings.
Since the petition explicitly say they’re not attempting to use force of law in any way I’m not sure why you felt the need to bring this up here.
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### Author:  [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/7 "2018-04-03T20:04:33Z")
> [@Balance](#):
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> If Hell has ice cream, is it really Hell? 😃
Yes, because it is so hot there that the ice cream melts away before you can get it to you mouth.
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/8 "2018-04-03T21:00:16Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The mind boggles – you could play this out to the hilt
>
> Imagine flavors like
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> Forty Days of Temptation Chocolate
> Rocky Road to Damascus
> Roman Delight
> Water and Wine Ice
> Cursed Fig
> Purple Passion
> Milk and Honey
> Locust Bean
> Heavenly Manna
They should build one alongside [Shem’s Snack Shack](https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2016/10/01/shems-snack-shack/).
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### Author:  [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/9 "2018-04-03T21:20:22Z")
I don’t like the name, but I say that we shouldn’t use the law to change it. I’d simply not purchase ice cream there.
At least the chain picked a named that, while it might arouse ire, won’t arouse violence. Can you imagine if they’d named it Sweet Muhammed? They’d be burned down, or occupied, like that theater in New York was when they showed a movie about the life of Muhammed. Those protesters though, incorrectly as it turns out, that the face of Muhammed was portrayed in the film.
> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> The mind boggles – you could play this out to the hilt
>
> Imagine flavors like
>
> Forty Days of Temptation Chocolate
> Rocky Road to Damascus
> Roman Delight
> Water and Wine Ice
> Cursed Fig
> Purple Passion
> Milk and Honey
> Locust Bean
> Heavenly Manna
> and there would signs in the bathrooms saying “Pilate says everyone should wash their hands.”
>
> I’m definitely going to Hell for this.
I really like those names!
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### Author:  [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/10 "2018-04-03T21:25:49Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#):
>
> The mind boggles – you could play this out to the hilt
>
> Imagine flavors like
>
> Forty Days of Temptation Chocolate
> Rocky Road to Damascus
> Roman Delight
> Water and Wine Ice
> Cursed Fig
> Purple Passion
> Milk and Honey
> Locust Bean
> Heavenly Manna
> and there would signs in the bathrooms saying “Pilate says everyone should wash their hands.”
>
> I’m definitely going to Hell for this.
Well slide over on that bench, there’s always room for another blasphemer !!!
Wailing Walltermelon Sorbet
Gethsemane Grape Swirl
Miraculous Mint Chip
Trinity Triple Fudge
Palm Sundae
Matzoh Crunch Ripple
BetrayalBerry Butternut ( leaves a bad taste in the mouth )
As for the O.P.: I find the name to be mildly distasteful ( no pun intended here ), but can hardly claim to be morally outraged. People need to get a grip.
If, as Jesus said, we are to turn the other cheek, why not do so after spooning some ice cream into said cheek??
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/11 "2018-04-03T21:34:18Z")
Does the chain really have [only 21 options](http://www.sweetjesus4life.com/menu/), or are they featuring just a sampling on their on-line menu?
(Side note: holy crap at Krusty the Cone.)
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/12 "2018-04-03T21:39:52Z")
> [@gigi](#):
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> “Our name was created from the popular phrase that people use as an expression of enjoyment, surprise or disbelief. Our aim is not to offer commentary on anyone’s religion or belief systems. Our own organization is made up of amazing people that represent a wide range of cultural and religious beliefs.”
>
> Right, because there was no other expression that conveys enjoyment, surprise or disbelief??!
Well, it does have the word “sweet” in it, so that narrows down the choices.
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### Author:  [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/13 "2018-04-03T22:03:22Z")
The funniest thing from the petition is the claim that
> [@](#):
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> _Freedom of speech and freedom of religion are Christian principles._
There will surely be a huge Streisand Effect from this.
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### Author:  [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/14 "2018-04-03T22:12:56Z")
What would they think of the [Big Gay Ice Cream](https://www.biggayicecream.com) parlor?
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### Author:  [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/15 "2018-04-03T22:23:59Z")
Nutella milkshake? I mean, ick.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/16 "2018-04-03T22:58:49Z")
Would “Sweet Muhammed” actually cause an uproar, though? Muslims are opposed to depictions of their prophet, but they have no qualms about use of his name (less than Christians do about Jesus, if the number of Muslims named after him is any indication). Heck, if I saw an ice-cream parlor called “Sweet Muhammed”, I would assume that the proprietor named it after himself.
And while I’m not the biggest fan of hate speech laws, I still think there’s room to write them in a way that prohibits “Death to the Jews” but doesn’t object to Jesus ice cream.
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### Author:  [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/17 "2018-04-03T23:22:54Z")
So, the business must know that the name maybe offensive to some.
After that, it becomes a marketing decision.
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### Author:  [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/18 "2018-04-03T23:42:50Z")
Well, they did start in Canada, where the endless grey winter from July to July forces people to develop a sense of good humor or die.
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/19 "2018-04-03T23:43:45Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#):
>
> The mind boggles – you could play this out to the hilt
>
> Imagine flavors like
>
> Forty Days of Temptation Chocolate
> Rocky Road to Damascus
> Roman Delight
> Water and Wine Ice
> Cursed Fig
> Purple Passion
> Milk and Honey
> Locust Bean
> Heavenly Manna
> and there would signs in the bathrooms saying “Pilate says everyone should wash their hands.”
>
> I’m definitely going to Hell for this.
> [@Cartooniverse](#):
>
> Well slide over on that bench, there’s always room for another blasphemer !!!
>
> Wailing Walltermelon Sorbet
> Gethsemane Grape Swirl
> Miraculous Mint Chip
> Trinity Triple Fudge
> Palm Sundae
> Matzoh Crunch Ripple
> BetrayalBerry Butternut ( leaves a bad taste in the mouth )
There’d better be plenty of room in that handbasket. 🙂
Body n’ Blood Berry
Communion Caramel
Feeding the Five Thousand Fudge Swirl
Blessed Banana
Pentecost Praline
Galilee Ginger Snap
Bethsaida Black Walnut
Baptismal Butter Brickle
Matthew’s Mango
Mark’s Mint Chocolate
Luke’s Lemon Custard
Corinthian Cherry
Galatian Grape
Colossian Coconut
Raspberry Revelation
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### Author:  [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/20 "2018-04-04T00:32:48Z")
So a Canadian company gave its stores [a Mexican name](https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-people-named-jesus/reference) and slipped them over the border just to annoy Americans?
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