# protesting an ice cream parlor

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [April 3, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744 "2018-04-03T19:17:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/41 "2018-04-04T17:23:57Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Speaking as one myself, I very strongly feel that the burden is on those who call themselves Christians to deal with such things in a manner that is true to the spirit of the Lord they claim to serve.

Absolutely. If one comes to my town, it’s an opportunity to offer it up as a mortification for my sins.

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### Author: ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/42 "2018-04-05T00:05:10Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> … There just isn’t a reason to do it that outweighs offending people. …

Respectfully, no. Plenty of people say and do plenty of things that offend, if not outright appall and disgust, me, for no reason that I can see.

However, I will meet you halfway. Once we manage to stop all hateful acts, no I’ll make it easier, all hateful acts motivated by someone else’s religion, _then_ I will support opposition to this.

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### Author: ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/43 "2018-04-05T00:40:25Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Respectfully, no. Plenty of people say and do plenty of things that offend, if not outright appall and disgust, me, for no reason that I can see.

So that makes this OK? 😕

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### Author: ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/44 "2018-04-05T00:48:11Z")

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We are now solidly in the midst of an era of “the tyranny of the offended”.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/45 "2018-04-05T01:20:43Z")

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For those who like their blasphemy as the main course: [Cheesus Crust Pizza](https://www.cheesuscrustmenu.com/).

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/46 "2018-04-05T01:40:22Z")

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If “Happy holidays” = “war on Christmas,” then this is Christians throwing dessert to the lions.

This aggression will not stand. For it is written:

If any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy cone, let him have thy spoon also.

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### Author: ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/47 "2018-04-05T14:48:18Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> For those who like their blasphemy as the main course: [Cheesus Crust Pizza](https://www.cheesuscrustmenu.com/).

Made from the finest [cheeses of Nazareth, Pennsylvania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheeses...(of_Nazareth)). 😃

NB: That album is by an actual evangelical Christian skapunk group.

The offenderati may commence hyperventilating now.

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### Author: ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/48 "2018-04-05T15:12:29Z")

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“What, then, to do about Cheeses of Nazareth?”

Eat them, I guess. 🙂

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### Author: ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/49 "2018-04-05T15:19:44Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> But, as the explanation on the website which **gigi** quoted upthread says, the ice cream parlor isn’t named directly after Jesus, but after the phrase “sweet Jesus”; so anybody who uses that phrase is partly to blame.

I wonder if they would consider [_1776_](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068156/quotes?ref_=tt_ql_trv_4) blasphemous?

[_repeated line_]  
**McNair** : Awww, Sweet Jesus!

To RTF: Not just cheesemakers but dairymen of all persuasions.

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### Author: ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/50 "2018-04-05T15:25:55Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> So that makes this OK? 😕

Makes what OK? The fact that they can do so? Yes, I’d say that it makes it OK. In this particular case it’s people being offended at nothing, that’s what makes it OK.

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### Author: ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/51 "2018-04-05T15:52:53Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> I’d had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, ‘That ice cream cone was good enough for Jehovah.’

He said it again! Stone him!

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### Author: ![senoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@senoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/senoy)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/52 "2018-04-05T16:15:48Z")

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Could the name be offensive? Yeah, I can see that. It arguably makes light of a sacred name. They also play up the religious connection a bit. I would guess that most Christians aren’t particularly offended, but some are. As such, I would probably prefer that they name it something different, but we live in a country that guarantees you a right to offend if you’d like. I would liken this to if a white guy opened up a restaurant called ‘The Real MLKing’ and had offerings like ‘The Malcolm X-perience’ and then said “It’s just a pun name because we serve southern food and ‘the real thing’ is an expression.” I think that it would not be outrageous if people took umbrage. I think taking something important to people and using it in a funny way to sell product is probably crass, but it’s a free country. I guess if more people like the ice cream than are offended by the name then that’s the market at work and what can you do?

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### Author: ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/53 "2018-04-05T16:18:14Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> He said it again! Stone him!

For that you must go across the street to the Stone Cold Creamery.

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### Author: ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/54 "2018-04-05T23:01:50Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Makes what OK? The fact that they can do so? Yes, I’d say that it makes it OK. In this particular case it’s people being offended at nothing, that’s what makes it OK.

Obviously we can disagree on whether it’s something worth getting offended over, but it’s not nothing.

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### Author: ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/55 "2018-04-06T00:47:51Z")

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> [@senoy](#):
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> I would liken this to if a white guy opened up a restaurant called ‘The Real MLKing’ and had offerings like ‘The Malcolm X-perience’ and then said “It’s just a pun name because we serve southern food and ‘the real thing’ is an expression.”

It’s nothing like that. “The Real MLKing” is not an expression. “Sweet Jesus” is.

I see nothing offensive here at all. How is having Jesus associated with something all people enjoy a bad thing? 😕

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### Author: ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/56 "2018-04-06T01:00:34Z")

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And yet no one objects to a Hail Mary pass in football.

What’s up with that? Surely that’s objectionable too.

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### Author: ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/57 "2018-04-06T01:08:21Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Obviously we can disagree on whether it’s something worth getting offended over, but it’s not nothing.

People getting offended is nothing new, but it doesn’t give them any special standing.

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### Author: ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/58 "2018-04-06T01:17:35Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I don’t like the name, but I say that we shouldn’t use the law to change it. I’d simply not purchase ice cream there.
> 
> At least the chain picked a named that, while it might arouse ire, won’t arouse violence. Can you imagine if they’d named it Sweet Muhammed?

Muhammad Trucking: [Muhammad Enterprises USDOT 1102872](https://www.quicktransportsolutions.com/truckingcompany/georgia/muhammad-enterprises-usdot-1102872.php)

Mohamed Taxi: [https://www.snupit.co.za/pietermaritzburg/northdale/mohamed-taxi/333628](https://www.snupit.co.za/pietermaritzburg/northdale/mohamed-taxi/333628)

Sister Muhammad’s Kitchen: [https://www.yelp.com/biz/sister-muhammads-kitchen-philadelphia](https://www.yelp.com/biz/sister-muhammads-kitchen-philadelphia)

Muhammad’s Halal Grille: [https://www.opentable.com/r/muhammads-halal-grille-camden](https://www.opentable.com/r/muhammads-halal-grille-camden)

Muhammad’s Contracting: [Muhammad's Contracting | Philadelphia, PA | Thumbtack](https://www.thumbtack.com/pa/philadelphia/windows/contracting-services-muhammad-s-contracting)

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### Author: ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/59 "2018-04-06T01:33:56Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> A certain group of people are [very cross about](https://wokesloth.com/ice-cream-shoppe/mariam/) an ice cream parlor:
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> _Canadian ice cream company [Sweet Jesus ice cream](http://www.sweetjesus4life.com/menu/)— currently expanding into the United States— is in the midst of some seriously hellacious controversy … facing calls of boycott from Christian communities over its name and imagery, and is contending with a [CitizenGo.org petition](http://citizengo.org/en-ca/sc/158645-toronto-based-ice-cream-parlours-serve-blasphemy)claiming it “serves up blasphemy” … Ian O’Sullivan, the man responsible for starting the petition, wrote that certain flavors of ice cream (referencing ‘Red Rapture’ and ‘Sweet Baby Jesus’) are “anti-Christ” and “anti-Christian” …_
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> Not sure if this is funny or sad.

Ian O’Sullivan should relax & have a [beer](https://duclaw.com/beers/sweet-baby-jesus-2/).  
My friend likes [del]root[/del] beer floats; what a combination!

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### Author: ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protesting-an-ice-cream-parlor/811744/60 "2018-04-06T05:39:17Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> And yet no one objects to a Hail Mary pass in football.
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> What’s up with that? Surely that’s objectionable too.

Catholics like the free advertising.

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