# Protestors

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 16, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710 "2004-06-16T18:32:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/21 "2004-06-17T02:30:00Z")

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Us Yippies, on the other had, bathe daily!

Peta, the group that in the magazine Petakids, advocates yelling at everyone who walks by you on the badness of meat.

Maybe someone should throw a rubber broccoli at them. 😛

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/22 "2004-06-17T02:35:38Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> How do you know they were flea-infested?

Perhaps the fleas were protesting as well. They are flea-brained after all.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/23 "2004-06-17T02:43:13Z")

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Now that the G8 Summit is over, the protestors have gone on to whatever the hell else there is to protest.

Outside the usual “disturbing the peace” arrests, there was very little trouble.

In Brunswick, about a dozen protestors are still in jail. Why? They refuse to give police their real names (a misdemenor). Most of the protestors marched, carried signs, and did the thing protestors do (except, thankfully, destroy the city). What I found interesting was that most of them kept their faces covered. I don’t know protestor protocol, but this strikes me as hypocritical.

Seems like you’d want the world to know who you are and what you’re against.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/24 "2004-06-17T03:35:02Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> What I found interesting was that most of them kept their faces covered. I don’t know protestor protocol, but this strikes me as hypocritical.
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> Seems like you’d want the world to know who you are and what you’re against.

Just a WAG:

Contrary to common belief among the ignorati, many people who attend protests such as this also have regular jobs in order to pay the rent and put (in this case) vegetarian food on the table.

Some of these people’s day jobs might be at places where the powers-that-be might take umbrage at their employees participating in such a protest. Hence the desire for anonymity.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/25 "2004-06-17T04:05:07Z")

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> [@Baldwin](#):
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> Surely you’re joking.

No, I’m serious. I’ve pretty much always heard “hippie” as a perjorative, except, I guess, by hippies.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/26 "2004-06-17T04:32:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> If you want to affect social change and/or do something positive, might I suggest doing something other than protesting? Perhaps something with quantifiable results?[/list][li]Be a Big Brother/Big Sister.[_]Teach at an after-school program in an urban school.[_]Clean up a neglected park.[_]Volunteer at an animal shelter.[_]Give blood.[_]Spay or neuter your pets.[_]Say hi to Opal.[/list][/li]… the list goes on.

It’s always been my own experience that protestors are also activists in other ways. I think I’ve done all of the above except for the Big Sister program which I considered doing, but did counselling instead.

Some of you have a strange “need” to denigrate these protestors by making them “flea-infested,” unclean and stupid. If you have to resort to those tactics, your arguments are weak.

And I don’t even agree with these particular protestors.

I support the right of people to protest anything non-violently – whether it be Michael Moore’s movie, “under God” in the pledge, the _removal_ of “under God” from the pledge, a poll tax in Concord, Massachusetts or British rule in India by “that dirty little man.”

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/27 "2004-06-17T04:46:21Z")

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Ugh. I’m vegan and these PETA fools make _me_ wanna throw raw meat at 'em.

These are the morons that lead many carnivores to believe it’s perfectly okay to begin lambasting and interrogating a vegan or vegetarian upon being informed of their diet instead of just leaving them the fuck alone to enjoy their veggies in peace, which is all they really want.

Rat bastards.

:mad:

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**Author:** ![emekthian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecae2f/32.png) [@emekthian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emekthian)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/28 "2004-06-17T05:02:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The rape of the rubber trees must stop NOW! VEGETABLE RIGHTS NOW!

Salads are only for muderers  
Coleslaw’s a fascist regime  
Don’t think that they don’t have feelings  
Just 'cause a radish can’t scream

I love that song!

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/29 "2004-06-17T05:13:55Z")

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This is unrelated except by the most flimsy of connections:

My wife and I have always referred to KFC as “Bucky Fuck.”

Dunno why. Don’t think about it.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/30 "2004-06-17T05:31:02Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> These are the morons that lead many carnivores to believe it’s perfectly okay to begin lambasting and interrogating a vegan or vegetarian upon being informed of their diet instead of just leaving them the fuck alone to enjoy their veggies in peace, which is all they really want.

Unfortunately, this is not what the PETA folks want. I’m more than happy to let Vegans eat their veggies in peace, unfortunately many of these PETA folks want to activly keep me from eating my steak in peace. Respect. You get what you give.

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**Author:** ![Denis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@Denis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Denis)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/31 "2004-06-17T05:33:28Z")

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Yup.

And PETA can lick my meaty balls.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/32 "2004-06-17T07:21:04Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> Unfortunately, this is not what the PETA folks want. I’m more than happy to let Vegans eat their veggies in peace, unfortunately many of these PETA folks want to activly keep me from eating my steak in peace. Respect. You get what you give.

No shit. That’s why I loathe these PETA fools. The lack of respect they give seems to directly effect the lack of respect _I_, and other vegetarians _get_. Hardly seems fair, considering I don’t know any of these people nor do I agree with their positions or tactics. Doesn’t stop Joe Random Carnivore from giving me shit the minute he finds out I’m vegan (which I desperately try to hide to avoid these confrontations).

So are you saying it’s right that the lack of respect _they_ give affects the lack of respect _I_ get?

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**Author:** ![aurelian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f4b2a3/32.png) [@aurelian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurelian)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/33 "2004-06-17T08:12:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally posted by\*\* Mr. Blue Sky\*\*
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> What I found interesting was that most of them kept their faces covered. I don’t know protestor protocol, but this strikes me as hypocritical.

And also, there are often cops/ government employees filming/ taking pictures of the protest/ rally/ march. A city cop videotaped the TA rally and march, and I literally saw someone halfway-hanging out their window taking photos of the protestors when Tom Ridge came to town a few years back.

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> Orignally posted by \*\*Denis[/p]  
> This is unrelated except by the most flimsy of connections:
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> My wife and I have always referred to KFC as “Bucky Fuck.”

What do you have against the UW mascot? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/34 "2004-06-17T11:02:08Z")

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> [@aurelian](#):
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> What do you have against the UW mascot? 🙂

[hijack]  
[singing]If you want to be a Badger,  
just come along with me,  
by the bright shining light of the moon…[/singing]

Erm, sorry. I love Bucky. 🙂 (Class of '93!)  
[/hijack]

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**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/35 "2004-06-17T13:26:41Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> No shit. That’s why I loathe these PETA fools. The lack of respect they give seems to directly effect the lack of respect _I_, and other vegetarians _get_. Hardly seems fair, considering I don’t know any of these people nor do I agree with their positions or tactics. Doesn’t stop **Joe Random Carnivore** from giving me shit the minute he finds out I’m vegan (which I desperately try to hide to avoid these confrontations).
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> So are you saying it’s right that the lack of respect _they_ give affects the lack of respect _I_ get?

(emphasis added)

Like it or not, you’re associated with them. I have friends who are vegetarians and I never would have known if they hadn’t told me. Their perfectly nice people, and it would be ridiculous to make judgements about their character based on their diets.

That said, your militant veggies are some of the most obnoxious people on the planet, and you get stuck dealing with negative image they’ve created. I’m sure the vast majority of vegitarians are reasonable people, but we never hear from them and the obvious ones are all complete assholes.

You may also want to reconsider the “carnivore” cracks, as long as we’re on the subject of respect.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/36 "2004-06-17T13:50:13Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> this might, however, answer the preverbial question “which came first…”

That answer is obvious. The rooster…

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/37 "2004-06-17T14:43:23Z")

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> [@Exgineer](#):
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> That said, your militant veggies are some of the most obnoxious people on the planet, and you get stuck dealing with negative image they’ve created. I’m sure the vast majority of vegitarians are reasonable people, but we never hear from them and the obvious ones are all complete assholes.

We only get “stuck dealing with the negative image” because some morons apparently can’t figure out that a few militants don’t necessarily speak for the whole community.

I don’t judge all Christians based on the rantings of Fred Phelps or Jesse Helms or Pat Robertson. I don’t judge all Muslims based on the actions of Al Qaeda members. I don’t judge all conservatives by the mindless dribble or Ann Coulter.

If anyone does judge all vegetarians based on the actions of a few, maybe they need to ask themselves whether it’s really PETA that’s the problem, or their own lack of critical faculties.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/38 "2004-06-17T14:47:02Z")

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> [@Denis](#):
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> Yup.
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> And PETA can lick my meaty balls.

we were in Target a few weeks ago, and some guy and 2 women walk by doing the Alec Baldwin Schwede Balls scene from SNL.

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**Author:** ![whoisreadingthis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b782af/32.png) [@whoisreadingthis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whoisreadingthis)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/39 "2004-06-17T17:33:07Z")

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maybe you should plan to protest the protestors?

think about the good you could do…

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protestors/250710/40 "2004-06-17T18:07:19Z")

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> [@lezlers](#):
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> Doesn’t stop Joe Random Carnivore from giving me shit the minute he finds out I’m vegan (which I desperately try to hide to avoid these confrontations).

I’m still gonna wear my “How many tomatos died for your salad?” shirt with pride. 😃

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