# Protests in Muriretta California. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262 "2014-07-03T11:41:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262/61 "2014-07-09T11:27:44Z")
Okay folks, that is IT! :mad: There is FAR too much reasoned factual discussion going on in here! What do you think this is… Great Debates? Get with the program people! _The BBQ Pit…Love it or leave it!_ ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262/62 "2014-07-09T11:43:16Z")
OK. Kick 'em out. If they really have a well founded fear then they have to make their claim in the first safe country they transit. It’s up to Mexico to process most all of them. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262/63 "2014-07-09T12:20:53Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > Illegal immigrants [do not have the right to an attorney](http://cis.org/feere/detained-immigrants-and-right-counsel) to represent them at a removal hearing if they cannot afford one themselves. You’re drawing water from a poisoned well. Back to the protesters, I have a simple rule to determine the level of credence I give to protesters. If the crowd carries more than a couple of American flags, they’re probably right wing extremists. If there are dozens of flags, they’re probably assholes. If there are Gadsden flags, they’re most definitely assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262/64 "2014-07-09T19:46:33Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > Illegal immigrants [do not have the right to an attorney](http://cis.org/feere/detained-immigrants-and-right-counsel) to represent them at a removal hearing if they cannot afford one themselves. That’s because being in the US without documentation isn’t a criminal offense and a deportation hearing is a civil matter. They aren’t guaranteed the right to legal counsel in a civil court. Minors can’t be automatically deported without a hearing in any case and a large number of these immigrants are minors. If you came home and found a small child had wandered into your yard would you feel some sense of moral obligation as a human being to see that they wound up in safe hands? Same kind of thing. Immigration is at its heart a humanitarian, civil, administrative endeavor not a criminal case. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262/65 "2014-07-09T19:48:08Z")
It’s quite clear that Republicans used up their lifetime supply of sympathy for Hispanic immigrants on Elian Gonzalez. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262/66 "2014-07-11T21:52:15Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > It’s quite clear that Republicans used up their lifetime supply of sympathy for Hispanic immigrants on Elian Gonzalez. As if they gave a fvck about him either. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/protests-in-muriretta-california/692262.md?page=3)