# Prove your existance...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 8, 2001, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116 "2001-11-08T03:10:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![modro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@modro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/modro)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/1 "2001-11-08T03:10:18Z")

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Being in the philosophical mood that I am, I can’t help but wonder about the whole meaning of existance. Being as I can’t even prove that _I_ even exist to myself, with the exception of my conscienceness, I wonder what everyone elses take on this is. Do you exist, do _I_ exist, and can you prove it?

Unfortunately, last time I pondered this, I reduced myself to a mere puddle of brain goo, left with thoughts of whether my reality was merely a figment of my imagination, and if so, could I change it. If everything as I know it, including the people of this board, are parts of my imagination, why am I not higher in the social system that I created? If I created everything in my own mind, does that make me god? If I am in fact god, why do you not worship me?

What am I?

What are you?

And of course, the greatest question of all, why in the name of hell did I come up with polka, and why can’t I will it away?

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**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/2 "2001-11-08T03:14:36Z")

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I don’t worship anyone. Maybe a photo or video will prove your existence? But then, I understand vampires cannot see their images in mirrors, and perhaps not in photos.

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**Author:** ![Oicu812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f475e1/32.png) [@Oicu812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oicu812)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/3 "2001-11-08T03:15:43Z")

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I don’t have to prove my existence to you, since you are merely a figment of my fertile imagination.

A pantheistic solipsist at heart…

O

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**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/4 "2001-11-08T03:23:29Z")

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Statement Proof

1. I am 1. I think

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/5 "2001-11-08T03:23:33Z")

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Define “exist”.

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**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/6 "2001-11-08T03:25:30Z")

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I post, therefore I am.

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**Author:** ![modro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@modro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/modro)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/7 "2001-11-08T03:26:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Violet \*  
> \*\*I don’t worship anyone. Maybe a photo or video will prove your existence? But then, I understand vampires cannot see their images in mirrors, and perhaps not in photos. \*\*

How can a photo prove my existance to you, if you cannot prove that the photograph exists, merely the thought of it does? How can I prove that you exist for the same reason?

Am I talking to myself?

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**Author:** ![modro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@modro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/modro)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/8 "2001-11-08T03:28:38Z")

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[sup]\*please note that I did not mean “am I talking to myself” as derogatory, i reread it and noticed it sounded like that. I meant “if you are a figment of my imagination, am I talking to myself”.[/sup]

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/9 "2001-11-08T03:33:45Z")

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**Old Adage:** I think, therefore, I am.

**New Adage:** I shop, therefore, I am.

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**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/10 "2001-11-08T03:38:36Z")

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Definitely “Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.” This is not a put down. Mere observation. I guess I don’t need to prove my existence to myself or anyone else. A bunch of terrorists tried to kill me in Sept. So I must exist to them.

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/11 "2001-11-08T03:41:34Z")

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…that if I am a figment of your imagination, then I want some of whatever you’re smoking so I can dream up myself.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/12 "2001-11-08T04:25:05Z")

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Does it matter if you exist or not? You are what you are, things happen as they happen. Something new will happen when we die, or not.

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**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/13 "2001-11-08T04:40:54Z")

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Man, I gotta pee… I better exist myself on yond unto the facilities…

Carry On.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/14 "2001-11-08T04:43:16Z")

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Unfortunately the college loan people are quite certain that I exist.

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**Author:** ![Yue\_Han](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/eada6e/32.png) [@Yue\_Han](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yue_Han)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/15 "2001-11-08T04:50:08Z")

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I don’t.

–John

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**Author:** ![TheOtherOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@TheOtherOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheOtherOne)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/16 "2001-11-08T04:53:17Z")

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If you could create yourself, what would you be? How would your other creations regard you? If you are a figment of your own imagination, what are you to begin with, that has such a wonderful imagination, yet cannot exist without itself to imagine things? (yeah, I’m confused too)…  
Reminds me of a quote…“The single true test of God’s omnipotence is that he need not exist in order to save us”…forgot who said it. Or maybe I made it up.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/17 "2001-11-08T05:11:00Z")

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I don’t exist. Which means that you are hallucinating if you think that you are reading this.

So you should get yourself to a good psychiatrist.

But if you take directions from your hallucinations then you are really off your nut. That puts you into a bit of a quandry, doesn’t it.

[sub]If you can read this then you are hallucinating to close[/sub]

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**Author:** ![DPWhite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d26b3c/32.png) [@DPWhite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPWhite)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/18 "2001-11-08T05:20:38Z")

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It all depends on your definition of terms. By the definitions we all normally use, we all certainly exist. What does your life mean is a much tougher question.

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**Author:** ![Palve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Palve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palve)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/19 "2001-11-08T05:23:51Z")

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Prove my existance? Why? It doesn’t matter! If I don’t exist, it doesn’t affect my life and my happiness, therefore I don’t care.

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**Author:** ![drillrod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@drillrod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drillrod)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/prove-your-existance/92116/20 "2001-11-08T10:54:13Z")

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Proof that the rest of the world is real and not just a figment of your imagination? Easy.

I’m not living the life I would be living if I could just make it all up.

Are you?

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