# Proverbs meaning the opposite in English or other languages

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**Created:** [February 7, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/proverbs-meaning-the-opposite-in-english-or-other-languages/1014027 "2025-02-07T21:14:25Z")\
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edit, never mind already said.

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> [@bob\_2](#):
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> Attack is the best form of defense.  
> He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

The pen is mightier than the sword.  
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

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_Al que madruga Dios le ayuda._ Godott helps those that get up early.  
But also  
_No por mucho madrugar amanece mas temprano._ The sun does not rise earlier if you get up sooner.  
I identify with the latter.

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Maybe not quite proverbial, but I did once have occasion to use the put-down response in

_Age before beauty_  
_Pearls before swine_

And very satisfying it was.

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A couple of biblical ones:

_Thou shalt not kill._ —Exodus 20:13

_Thus sayeth the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side and slay every man his brother…companion… neighbour_. —\*Exodus 32:27

_For every man shall bear his own burden_ _._ —Galatians 6:2

_Bear ye one another’s burdens_ _, and so fulfill the law of Christ._ —Galatians 6:2

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“Physician, heal thyself.”  
“A physician who treats himself has a fool for a patient.”

And a more generalized thing:  
“What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.”  
Vs. any sane adage about getting over a disease. IOW: don’t take medical advice from Nietzsche.

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“Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.”

“Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.”

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.”

We have the same saying in German that even rhymes “Einem geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul”, but none I know about Greek gifts (which I assume refers to the Trojan Horse).

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.”

You may already know, but this saying has a factual basis. Horse gums recede with age, so a quick way to see whether the four-year-old someone is trying to sell you, is actually a lot older, is to check the mouth.

Naturally, a free horse doesn’t need checking.

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> We have the same saying in German that even rhymes “Einem geschenkten Gaul schaut man nicht ins Maul”, but none I know about Greek gifts (which I assume refers to the Trojan Horse).

It is also said in Spanish, though it does not rhyme: _A caballo regalado no le mires el diente_. As **bob\_2** rightly writes, there is a reason for this saying.  
The Greek gifts are a [**translation from Latin**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beware_of_Greeks_bearing_gifts), from the _Aeneid,_ by Virgil, which reads: _Timeō Danaōs et dōna ferentēs_. The Danaans are Greeks from the mainland and the present is indeed the Trojan horse.

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Early to bed, early to rise,  
makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.

My candle burns at both ends;  
It will not last the night;  
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends—  
It gives a lovely light!

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There’s no place like home  
and  
The grass is always greener on the other side

j

ETA - and kinda:

If you want something doing right, do it yourself  
and  
Jack of all trades, master of none

ETA2

Blood is thicker than water (meaning that family is the most important thing)  
and  
You can choose your friends but you can’t choose your family

ETA3 (!)

Love thy neighbor  
and  
Good fences make good neighbors\*

\*- a personal fave - I had been scratching my head trying to think of the opposite.

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> There’s no place like home  
> and  
> The grass is always greener on the other side

I think these are similar. ‘There’s no place like home’ means that no matter where you go, ~~there you are~~ the place that is the most comfortable and safe to you is your home. ‘The grass is always greener on the other side [of the fence]’ is a cynical way of saying that you’re just as well off (or maybe better) where you are.

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Good point. I wasn’t thinking straight, there.

j

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> Good point. I wasn’t thinking straight, there.

You can think straight only while climbing stairs.

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> You can think straight only while climbing stairs.

[![](https://image.chukouplus.com/upload/C_1391/file/20220629/a3cda1a1e6748ce1d4f20b2c7eeee0ba.jpg) ](https://image.chukouplus.com/upload/C_1391/file/20220629/a3cda1a1e6748ce1d4f20b2c7eeee0ba.jpg)

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That was specifically directed to Treppenwitz. (Treppenwitz means staircase wit.)

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I am sure some Yiddish speaking person can find a counter to the phrase my uses “Mir lebt un mir lebt un mir stirbt a narr” (We live and we live and we die a fool), something about age and wisdom.

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> something about age and wisdom.

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”

– Mark Twain [(not really)](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/10/10/twain-father/)

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Yes, but I’d an aphorism in Yiddish.

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