# Pseudotrition Ruber Ruber and Liberal

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 8, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259 "2008-06-08T20:05:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/1 "2008-06-08T20:05:45Z")

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On the matter of **Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber** , and **Liberal**

As some of you will remember, in February of last year, an agreement was finalized between the posters named, and I was asked by both parties to be an intermediary to provide assurance that both parties abided by the terms of the agreement, which were:

**Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber** would stop posting, and not return to the board as a poster.

**Liberal** would send me $500.00, and at the end of two years compliance with the agreement I would pay that amount to Peudotrition Ruber Ruber by a means acceptable to him. The disposition of the funds during that time was entirely at my discretion, as was the adjudication of the matter of compliance on both sides. I took sole responsibility for the funds, without caveat that **Liberal** might or might not complete the payment, and I took sole responsibility for completing the payment to **Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber** , and determining what means of payment would be acceptable.

As of today, I would like to report that both participants are satisfied that the agreement is completed, and further, that **Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber** is welcome to resume posting, and that **Liberal** does not consider that to be an abrogation of the agreement, but rather a change of heart, and a change in the agreement, which I am satisfied does represent both parties expressed interest.

The disposition of the funds is acknowledged, and the transfer is acceptable to both participants. The matter of posting at will is settled, and does not represent a failure to fulfill the agreement, by either party.

Let me repeat this in terms appropriate to the Pit.

It’s over. No one changed their mind about the original issues, or retracted any prior arguments, or welshed on a bet. Both parties contacted me to renegotiate the agreement independently, and voluntarily, and in my opinion did so out of a desire to put this into the past, where it might lie quietly.

Welcome back, **Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber** , and I hope your experience helped you appreciate the value of your own participation here. Should anyone imply that your return is under any sort of cloud because of prior events, cite this thread.

**Liberal** , way to let go.

Others would do well to consider my attitude about neutrality in this matter when posting for any clarification or expansion on the OP. I will probably answer a few questions, but mostly, It’s fuckin’ over, already.

Tris

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/2 "2008-06-08T20:18:05Z")

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It’s over, but we can still make fun of either of both of them for it, right?

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/3 "2008-06-08T20:19:04Z")

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:dubious:

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/4 "2008-06-08T20:22:53Z")

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For my part, it’s very nice to be back.

It was nice to be away for a while, useful to reconsider my posting style and habits and the response they tended to draw, good to be in touch off-line with many, many Dopers over the past year and a half, interesting to lurk but have no way of responding to posts–all of it, good. I learned much and accomplished much (amazing what not posting two or three hours a day will do to your ability to do work, travel, get things done, etc.)

But it’s nice to be back.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/5 "2008-06-08T20:25:56Z")

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Welcome back, **pseuodtriton ruber ruber**. I’m glad that’s over with, too. I hate to see people leave and that situation made me very uncomfortable, for whatever (zilcho) that’s worth.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/6 "2008-06-08T20:27:18Z")

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I’d gladly stop posting for a year if someone paid me £500.

Anyone?

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/7 "2008-06-08T20:27:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Triskadecamus]  
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Welcome back, **Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber** ,

T  
[/QUOTE]  
You just _had_ to say “Beetlejuice” didn’t you. ☹

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/8 "2008-06-08T20:31:46Z")

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Also, I should thank \*\*Liberal \*\* here (missed the edit window–I’m out of practice, I guess). He suggested this change in the arrangement we’d struck, quite generously and quirkily and oddly characteristically, all very much to his credit.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/9 "2008-06-08T20:35:52Z")

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Damn, I went almost as long without posting for free. Five-hundy would’ve been nice.

Edit: Welcome back, prr 🙂

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/10 "2008-06-08T20:47:52Z")

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Ah, the Peace of Nicias.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/11 "2008-06-08T20:50:36Z")

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Another sign of the apocralypse (AKA apocryphal apocalypse), I see.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/12 "2008-06-08T21:16:12Z")

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It’s a sign of people taking this board way, WAY too fucking seriously, that’s for sure. At least the original agreement/bet or whatever, was.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/13 "2008-06-08T21:24:39Z")

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Welcome back, **PRR**. 🙂 I’m glad we could bring the matter to a close and emerge on good terms.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/14 "2008-06-08T21:25:26Z")

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[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]  
Also, I should thank \*\*Liberal \*\* here (missed the edit window–I’m out of practice, I guess). He suggested this change in the arrangement we’d struck, quite generously and quirkily and oddly characteristically, all very much to his credit.  
[/QUOTE]

Welcome back, I expect to see you in the baseball threads soon. 😉

Also hope to still see you at the [Jersey DopeFest](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=463120).

I guess I need to take back a few of the bad things I said about **Liberal**. Nah! 😃

Jim

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/15 "2008-06-08T21:43:02Z")

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Well I’ll be.

So, can I have the 500$ then? ^^

(welcome back **prr**!)

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/16 "2008-06-08T21:55:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Lobsang]  
I’d gladly stop posting for a year if someone paid me £500.

Anyone?  
[/QUOTE]

Maybe it could be a growth experience to ask for the money AFTER you stopped for a year. I’m certainly rooting for you. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/17 "2008-06-08T22:16:40Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
Maybe it could be a growth experience to ask for the money AFTER you stopped for a year. I’m certainly rooting for you. :dubious:  
[/QUOTE]  
And with the close of one incident of drama, another opens…

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/18 "2008-06-08T22:23:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Lobsang]  
I’d gladly stop posting for a year if someone paid me £500.

Anyone?  
[/QUOTE]

Isn’t that like several thousand dollars at this point? I’m afraid that the bet was for 500 or our dollars which which might cover cab fair from Heathrow to London proper or something. Still interested?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/19 "2008-06-08T22:25:38Z")

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[QUOTE=pseudotriton ruber ruber]  
Also, I should thank \*\*Liberal \*\* here (missed the edit window–I’m out of practice, I guess). He suggested this change in the arrangement we’d struck, quite generously and quirkily and oddly characteristically, all very much to his credit.  
[/QUOTE]

You should try for another 500. Got him in a generous mood perhaps.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotrition-ruber-ruber-and-liberal/452259/20 "2008-06-08T22:26:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Triskadecamus]  
The disposition of the funds is acknowledged, and the transfer is acceptable to both participants.  
[/QUOTE]  
What happened to the $500?

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