# pseudotriton ruber ruber: ignorant and intellectually dishonest is no way to go through life

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 31, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768 "2011-08-31T17:31:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/41 "2011-09-02T00:10:51Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …the piranhas tear the gerbils to shreds before they get a chance to drown.

Oh, _bullshit_! I paid twenty bucks for kittens, and kittens I will get!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/42 "2011-09-02T00:27:17Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> Except for like, the aqua part.

Fine. When I was a child, I had a formative experience while watching a bunch of gerbils in a rium.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/43 "2011-09-02T00:31:55Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Fine. When I was a child, I had a formative experience while watching a bunch of gerbils in a rium.

Much better.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/44 "2011-09-02T00:48:54Z")

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Well, certainly better than a bunch of gerbils in a rectum.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/45 "2011-09-02T00:53:36Z")

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What’s the matter, did the words “terrarium” and “vivarium” get booted out of the language to make room for “spammer” and “mankini” or something?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/46 "2011-09-02T00:57:47Z")

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As Eugene V. Debs is my witness, I had not known such a word as “mankini” existed. Thanks, **KD**. Always good to hear from California.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/47 "2011-09-02T01:00:23Z")

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Fuck that pseudo-linguistic airy-fairy bullshit.

It’s gin.

It’s spot of vermouth.

It’s called a martini.

I do NOT want to know what abomination a mankini is.

Ach, I’ll stick to single malts.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/48 "2011-09-02T01:03:01Z")

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Goddamnit, now I want a Scotch.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/49 "2011-09-02T01:04:26Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Fuck that pseudo-linguistic airy-fairy bullshit.
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> It’s gin.
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> It’s spot of vermouth.
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> It’s called a martini.
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> I do NOT want to know what abomination a mankini is.
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> Ach, I’ll stick to single malts.

You’re on the wrong track, and I recommend you stay there.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/50 "2011-09-02T01:07:23Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Goddamnit, now I want a Scotch.

Whale oil beef hooked.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/51 "2011-09-02T01:45:05Z")

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Better than keeping Richard Gere in a solarium!

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/52 "2011-09-02T02:17:51Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Goddamnit, now I want a Scotch.

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> You’re on the wrong track, and I recommend you stay there.

I’m actually going to be up all night working on a rather intractable report. I also have a bottle of Springbank 15 that I’ll be sipping at throughout. I’d love to share (really–I generally keep about 10 to 15 different single malts and a few good blends on hand in case company comes). All you have to do is ask … but be warned: given the nature of the original thread, no matter how well crafted, how specific, how rational, there’s no way the request can be successfully phrased.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/53 "2011-09-02T03:38:18Z")

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Well that’s why you invite Jesus to dinner – you can have any drink you want, and it’s on the House (of God).

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/54 "2011-09-02T03:48:49Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> To clarify, just in case, my “really, really red” line was a lame joke.

And yet I was amused. Must not say much about me :D.

Meanwhile my favorite has always been [_Xanthocephalus xanthocephalus_](http://www.pbase.com/marykayrubey/image/56321468/original) - the ‘Yellow-headed Yellow-head’. For some reason that had always tickled me. Again, that fact may not speak well of my sense of humor ;).

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/55 "2011-09-02T03:59:34Z")

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My favorite is the [western lowland gorilla](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_lowland_gorilla): _Gorilla gorilla gorilla_. Now that’s just fun to say.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/56 "2011-09-02T04:08:46Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> My favorite is the [western lowland gorilla](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_lowland_gorilla): _Gorilla gorilla gorilla_. Now that’s just fun to say.

Is that anything like _Beetlejuice beetlejuice …_

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/57 "2011-09-02T11:40:00Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> My favorite is the [western lowland gorilla](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_lowland_gorilla): _Gorilla gorilla gorilla_. Now that’s just fun to say.

For some reason, that’s gotten the “Magilla Gorilla” theme song going through my head.

Back to Pitting prr - in the original thread, he says [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14182716&postcount=107):

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> I keep asking Christians (and Dio) simply to name facts that they’re positive about, and I keep getting non-responsive answers (or in your case, math) telling me how offensively wrong this thought experiment is. Would you do me the kindness of writing your description of Jesus based on what he did, said, wrote, etc. that you feel would describe him and only him, without resorting to what people interpreted about his life?

Shorter version: ‘you keep saying my thought experiment is done all wrong. Why, oh why, aren’t you willing to participate in it?’

Is he just incredibly obtuse? Or does he simply not understand what his own words mean? No way to tell, I expect.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/58 "2011-09-02T12:08:09Z")

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> [@Jesus Christ as your fantasy dinner guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-as-your-fantasy-dinner-guest/593476/164):
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> How has \*\*RT \*\*done well when he won’t even venture a provisional description? If I find fault in someone’s description, he (or someone) can try again to come up with a better one, until you have one that works, that even a fault-finder like I am can’t really find much to complain about.

Looks like he’s changed the rules again. Up until this post, it was clear that you only got one try, and if you got your description wrong, it was game over.

What a twit.

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**Author:** ![markm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@markm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markm)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/59 "2011-09-02T14:03:14Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Looks like he’s changed the rules again. Up until this post, it was clear that you only got one try, and if you got your description wrong, it was game over.
> 
> What a twit.

Yeah, I tried to help you, but the wall-of-text responses he keeps throwing up are just too annoying to actually stick around and say more. Especially since every one of them results in a rule change. By his current rules, at least 50% of the historical figures who lived more than 1000 or so years ago would be virtually impossible to produce, because their historical and mythical lives have become so intertwined.

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**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-ignorant-and-intellectually-dishonest-is-no-way-to-go-through-life/594768/60 "2011-09-02T15:22:01Z")

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Why did anyone bother engaging in the first place? It was clear — almost from the start — that the intent was construction of a set of rules that would preclude the person commonly referred to in English as “Jesus Christ”. And having tuned the rules such that the genie would refuse any reasonable description of that person, the OP would have obtained a nice gotchya.

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