# Pseudotriton ruber ruber is admittedly disingenuous. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 9, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185 "2008-10-09T17:10:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/1 "2008-10-09T17:10:19Z")
[Here’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=486963) the thread where you admitted it. This, of course, is thread you requested I open for you, since apparently you’re too frail to just open one yourself. Knock yerself out, jack-hole. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/2 "2008-10-09T17:54:38Z")
Fucking amphibian asshole. Pits people with little more than a vague link to an 82-post thread without any background or clue as to what’s going on. Probably didn’t get beaten enough as a child. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/3 "2008-10-09T18:05:58Z")
Yeah, how about giving us a bit of a fucking clue as to what you’re talking about. Some quotes, or links to specific posts perhaps. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/4 "2008-10-09T18:10:20Z")
Here’s a thread where I posted something that might be pertinent. > **[Is McCain forked yet?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=469385)** > > Apparently he isn’t yet, since nobody has thought fit to say so here. So perhaps a rephrasing will help: When will the forking of McCain happen? What else can McCain do to make sure he loses this election? Does Obama, who clinched the nomination... ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/5 "2008-10-09T18:11:28Z")
> [@liberal](#): > > here’s a thread where i posted something that might be pertinent. > > [Is McCain forked yet? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=469385) :d ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/6 "2008-10-09T18:57:02Z")
I thought I was terrible at pitting people. This might be one of the worst ones I have seen. Are you pitting \*\*Pseudotriton ruber ruber \*\*for his stance about hitting kids or was there some specific examples of him being disingenuous? You could have actually explained that part and linked to the actual posts or at least listed the post numbers in the thread you found disingenuous. Instead you come off looking lazy and stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/7 "2008-10-09T19:15:12Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I thought I was terrible at pitting people. This might be one of the worst ones I have seen. To be fair, though, we won’t really be able to judge this pitting until we see how many posters – perhaps not even yet participating or named in this thread – are warned, suspended, or banned based on this thread or any related ATMB threads. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/8 "2008-10-09T19:18:37Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > You could have actually explained that part and linked to the actual posts or at least listed the post numbers in the thread you found disingenuous. > > Instead you come off looking lazy and stupid. …and your mother dresses you funny. ---
**Author:** ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/9 "2008-10-09T19:20:59Z")
For the benefit of the viewing public… Scumpup: > [@](#): > > Comparisons to how we discipline adults are hilarious. FTR, we ultimately discipline adults through the threat of pain and death. If you break the law, you will be arrested. If you resist arrest you will be physically subdued with pain and violence, or perhaps even killed. While you are incarcerated, you will be supervised by guards who have the authority to physically subdue you, or even kill you, should your level of misbehavior require it according to their rules and procedures. > If I could trick out my car to run on sanctimony, this thread would let me commute for a year for free. PRR: > [@](#): > > There may be circumstances where a guard can commit justifiable homicide upon a prisoner and be acquited, but this also applies to a peace officer and anyone he suspects of committing a crime, too. Guards have zero legal authority to execute prisoners, and are usually harshly punished (and rightly so) whenever a prisoner dies as a direct result of their actions. > > But keep telling yourself this line of absolute crap. I’m sure it helps you justify the choices you make throughout life. Scumpup: > [@](#): > > There’s enough in that post to get me to the Outer Banks for vacation next year. > > I wasn’t talking about guards summarily executing prisoners and you knew that. PRR: > [@](#): > > I did know that, but I also know that’s what you wrote. Try taking responsibility for expressing yourself poorly. Scumpup: > [@](#): > > Since you admit to deliberately misconstruing what I wrote, there is clearly no point in talking with you further. There can be no rational dialog with a person who does what you admit you did. PRR: > [@](#): > > Thank the Lord for this voluntary decision on your part, is all this devout atheist has to say. I was afraid you’d decide to expose your debating skills to me further. > > For the record, though, what I admitted to was taking seriously EXACTLY what you’d claimed in your post–no taking it out of context, no misquoting, just your words, that were patently insincere and foolish, and which you promptly disowned because any literal and sensible interpretation of them would be indefensible. I’d be much happier if you’d chosen to defend those foolish words because in debate I would have crushed you like a bug, but you chose instead to run away from what you’d written and to blame your foolishness on me. > > I’'m happiest of all, of course, that you’ve vowed never to engage in dialogue with me again, but if (I should say when) you choose to break your vow and respond to me, I would prefer you opened a Pit thread where I could express my feelings on the subject of your intellectual rigor and of your character less carefully than I must here. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/10 "2008-10-09T19:23:51Z")
It’s really not so interesting as to warrant a recap. Dull fucking pitting from a petulant child. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/11 "2008-10-09T19:30:52Z")
In the spanking argument, I’m with prr. But sorry, buddy, you’re wrong about arguing disingenuously about what someone wrote when you admit you knew exactly what they meant. I can’t stand that. It’s hijacking plain and simple. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/12 "2008-10-09T19:34:23Z")
Apparently, it’s umbrage season. ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/13 "2008-10-09T19:42:11Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Apparently, it’s umbrage season. It’s wabbit season! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/14 "2008-10-09T19:57:02Z")
Umbrage season! Wabbit season! Umbrage season! Wabbit season! Wabbit season! Umbrage season! I take great wabbit at this whole thread. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/15 "2008-10-09T19:58:24Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Apparently, it’s umbrage season. I’ll get my wand and broomstick. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/16 "2008-10-09T20:00:14Z")
For the record, I am not pitting PRR. I think s/he’s a hysterical drama queen, but isn’t worth my time to pit. I opened this thread at PRR’s request because s/he is seemingly too chickenshit to open hir own. > [@](#): > > I would prefer you opened a Pit thread where I could express my feelings on the subject of your intellectual rigor and of your character less carefully than I must here. Once again, knock yerself out, jack-hole. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/17 "2008-10-09T20:14:11Z")
So then, you’re pitting yourself on behalf of **Pseudotriton ruber ruber**? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/18 "2008-10-09T20:22:04Z")
Mawy Whitehouse has taken Umbwage, no supwise there. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/19 "2008-10-09T21:10:09Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > So then, you’re pitting yourself on behalf of **Pseudotriton ruber ruber**? No, I’m just interested to see where s/he/it plans to go with this after coming into the thread with a first post concluded by > [@](#): > > If you hit your kid, you’re a sick fuck, to my mind, and you need help, immediately and badly. See, anybody who disagrees with hir is not just wrong, but a “sick fuck.” If you care to peruse the thread, you’ll see that no further posts from PRR rose above that level. This is in addition to deliberately misconstruing what I said and arguing against it. PRR was not exactly covering hirself with glory in that thread, IMO. **erislover** later made the same point again I was making, only rather more elegantly. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-is-admittedly-disingenuous/467185/20 "2008-10-09T21:14:19Z")
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