# Pseudotriton ruber ruber: Nice Guy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 19, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-nice-guy/477856 "2008-12-19T03:14:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 13
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-nice-guy/477856/13 "2008-12-19T06:03:09Z")
> [@Uvula\_Donor](#): > > He’ll leave you alone if you give him $500. While reading his insane remarks I found myself thinking “ **Liberal** had a great idea with this shitwhistle.” To the OP, excellent points. From his overall attitude and crazy questions, I’d say that it irritates him that he believes women have all the power when it comes to flirting and/or dating. How dare they shoot this 15 second Romeo down and not even think that there could be a possibility of liking him! My favorite quote from him (a long one, sorry) is below. I am bolding the extra stupid parts. > [@Ladies, let’s be honest](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ladies-let-s-be-honest/477382/99): > > “Clearly not interested”? Well, it’s going to be very clear to you, sure, but some people don’t pick on cues (and some people send out mixed cues), or engage in hopeful thinking when it’s slightly unrealistic to keep hope alive– **I don;t know how optimism is necessarily “creepy,” even if it doesn’t quite fit with your program or your plans.** (To say nothing of “continuing to pester you” for someone who may think, incorrectly, that he’s showing you that he feels strongly about his interest in you, so strongly that he hopes you’ll try a little harder to understand what he’s offering you. To you, of course, he’s offering a pile of lukewarm diarrhea, but not everyone is willing to look at himself from your perspective instantly. He may think he’s a good catch, and wants you to think well of him, too. > > But the big problem here is your best case scenario, which is similarly restricting the perspectives to your own: “in all probability, going to be annoying at best”–really? The best thing that could possibly happen is (with your own quaification “in all probability”) is that you’ll be annoyed? How about the perhaps less probable but still possible outcome that you WON’T be annoyed? Ever think of that? That maybe you’ll be charmed? Won over? Change your mind? Guess not, but **you expect the guy to instantly go along with your program, and cease and desist because–no woman’s ever changed her mind in the history of the world?** Well all of the stalkers and rapists of the world have been given their new defense. They’re not sick fucks, they’re optimistic! They’re just trying to get a woman to step outside of her program. Yes, I realize most men aren’t stalkers and rapists, but I still don’t think anyone - man or woman - should have to explain or defend their “No.” in a situation like that. If I am going to the grocery store, my “program” is to get what I need and leave. Apparently **prr** believes that because I’m out in public I am duty bound to stop and really consider the flirtation and offer of a date from any guy that approaches me. I mean, who am I to shoot him down and think that’s the end? He has a right to be heard and have me look at him from a different point of view! **Prr** says he’s in a long term relationship. I hope that it goes on and on for a long, long time. Otherwise the ladies in his area are in for some of his idiotic dating beliefs and techniques. Oh I know he said **he** would **never** approach ladies like the person described in his OP, but he sure did try to twist words and move the goalposts enough to defend his 15 second hero. In short, he’s an asshole. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pseudotriton-ruber-ruber-nice-guy/477856)._