# Psst .. Tim, there is a mistake in your hot dish recipe!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [October 10, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638 "2024-10-10T20:39:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/21 "2024-10-10T23:20:35Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> it’s _never_ so obvious that you don’t need to spell it out.

But it was fun to see what people’s guesses were.

And a lot of the comments, while not identifying something actually “wrong,” did make good suggestions for a better written version.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/22 "2024-10-11T00:27:43Z")

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Sounds ghastly. I’d rather have lutefisk and lefse.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/23 "2024-10-11T00:37:08Z")

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Not me! I’d eat the hot dish, and if I were hungry enough I might even find it sort of tasty, for a few mouthfuls anyway.

I grew up eating that sort of food at least intermittently. I attended various Protestant church suppers on a regular basis (my favorite being an annual potluck gathering to watch The Wizard of Oz - kinda nice that a church would do that).

And perhaps more importantly, my mother was born and raised in Iowa, part of a family of German extraction, and she was always looking for ways to feed the family on a budget. So her cooking tended toward the hot dish end of the spectrum (though she was health-conscious enough that she was, if not exactly a health food nut, at least ahead of her time in minimizing processed foods and emphasizing vegetables).

Like most people, I retain some affection for the foods of my childhood, even if my palate has mostly moved beyond them.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/24 "2024-10-11T00:39:43Z")

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So do I. I still make my mother’s hamburger and rice hot dish from time to time, along with tuna noodle hot dish. But I’ll pass on Timmy’s glop.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/25 "2024-10-11T01:07:22Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> > [@solost](#):
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> > Well, that’s it then, I’m voting for trump.
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> Right!? How the heck can we trust a man to help run the country when he can’t even manage cheese portions? Geez.
> 
> Someone pass me that MAGA hat…

Yeah, at least trump and vance never lied to me about recipes!

Well, unless we’re talking recipes for dog or cat…

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/26 "2024-10-11T01:07:54Z")

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Huh, i saw a different recipe, that used ground turkey and had a lot more detail. I wonder if i can find it again…

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/27 "2024-10-11T01:11:19Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Huh, i saw a different recipe, that used ground turkey and had a lot more detail.

That would be the governor’s turkey taco hotdish. Beware - it contains two entire teaspoons of chili powder AND a 4 oz. can of mild green chiles, which by Minnesotan standards might be dangerously spicy.

> **[Tim's Turkey Taco Tot Hotdish](https://www.minnesotaturkey.com/recipes/tims-turkey-taco-tot-hotdish)**
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> Governor Tim Walz's winning Turkey Taco Tot Hotdish. He won Sen. Al Franken's 6th annual "Hotdish off" in 2016 with this recipe.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/28 "2024-10-11T01:16:01Z")

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> <https://x.com/GovTimWalz/status/1822010315938394427>

Here it is. And i see I’ve been ninja’d. It’s a much more complicated recipe, uses a lot of spices and is mostly less processed ingredients.

Oh, not really a ninja. I think the taco recipe is different from this one. I guess he likes to cook.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/29 "2024-10-11T01:25:35Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> So where does the cheese come from in the “Sprinkle with cheese for the last 10-15 minutes of baking”?

Jeez. You just add some extra, not the original 1 cup. That is just normal for a recipe.

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> That final sprinkle is like seasoning. You’re just expected to have unlimited cheese around. 🙂 Put the cup of cheese in the goop, and put more cheese to finish.

Exactly.

So, there’s nothing wrong with the recipe at all.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/30 "2024-10-11T01:28:52Z")

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This is the “hot dish” recipe I originally saw. Of course, it could be altered in infinite ways, to make it gluten-free, vegetarian, lactose-free, etc. The tater tot casserole I grew up with, and have made many times, had THREE ingredients: hamburger, cream soup (preferably mushroom), and Tater Tots.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/31 "2024-10-11T01:43:36Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> So where does the cheese come from in the “Sprinkle with cheese for the last 10-15 minutes of baking”?

Goodness. You don’t measure _that_ cheese. That would be like measuring the parmesan cheese you put on your spaghetti.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/32 "2024-10-11T01:44:37Z")

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The problem I see is this man clearly eats well.

But, I do not see him doing much more than grilling and maybe cooking pancakes on Sunday morning.  
Doesn’t put on a chef type vibe. At all.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/33 "2024-10-11T01:48:44Z")

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In the turkey recipe he has you measure out 3 cups of cheese, mix 2.5 into the body if the dish, and sprinkle the other half cup on top.

And wow, reading that recipe, there’s a LOT of butterfat in it, between the butter, milk, half& half, and cheese.

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/psst-tim-there-is-a-mistake-in-your-hot-dish-recipe/1008638/34 "2024-10-11T01:52:37Z")

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They need more calories in Minnesota to combat the cold.

Yeah, I believe that one🤔.

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> So where does the cheese come from in the “Sprinkle with cheese for the last 10-15 minutes of baking”?

That’s no accident. He’s gonna Make America Grate Again.

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Insert stock footage of elderly women applauding from “Monty Python’s Flying Circus”.

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> The problem I see is this man clearly eats well.

He’s as appealing as a potato kluska.

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> [@Zyada](#):
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> Goodness. You don’t measure _that_ cheese. That would be like measuring the parmesan cheese you put on your spaghetti.

But you should put it in the ingredient list: “Extra cheese for topping” or something like that.

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> That is just normal for a recipe.

No it isn’t - not for recipes that are written properly. Well written recipes mention “salt and pepper to taste” or “extra basil for garnish” or whatever, as one of the ingredients.

My cite: CairoCarol, who wrote recipes for a news magazine for a couple of years.

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> No it isn’t - not for recipes that are written properly. Well written recipes mention “salt and pepper to taste” or “extra basil for garnish” or whatever, as one of the ingredients.
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> My cite: CairoCarol, who wrote recipes for a news magazine for a couple of years.

I bow to your recipe experience.

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